dmcnews-digest Sunday, June 7 1998 Volume 03 : Number 372
In this issue:
DML: Wanted: Part #105721 Rear Screen Upper Finish
DML: DeLorean International Magazine
DML: Air Conditioner Electrical Problem
Re: DML: Wanted: Part #105721 Rear Screen Upper Finish
Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
RE: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
Re: Binnacle Removal (was: DML: Dash Lamps)
DML: Re: DMC-80 brochure now online
Re: DML: Wanted: Part #105721 Rear Screen Upper Finish
Re: DML: DMC
Re: Binnacle Removal (was: DML: Dash Lamps)
Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
DML: "Sticky Steering"
Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
DML: Re: other dmc products
Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
re: DML: Air Conditioner Electrical Problem
DML: Re: "Sticky Steering"
DML: Cure for "sticky" steering?
Re: DML: "Sticky Steering"
DML: Re: "Sticky Steering"
DML: question
DML: DMC-80 bus brochure
DML: hornzilla?
Re: DML: "Sticky Steering"
DML: History Channel Poll
DML: Re: DeLorean in a new game
DML: Headlights
DML: I want to go to Cinncinnati
DML: How to get Cincinnati Car Show Info
DML: Re: hornzilla?
DML: Re: Headlights
DML: Re: hornzilla?
DML: AC Freon Warning.
Re: DML: hornzilla?
Re: DML: I want to go to Cinncinnati
Re: DML: I want to go to Cinncinnati
Re: DML: "Sticky Steering"
DML: New owner questions
RE: DML: DMC-80 bus brochure
DML: Re: AC Freon Warning.
Re: DML: hornzilla?
DML: DeLoreans in Movies
DML: AC Idler Pulleys Bearing Replacement Procedure
Re: DML: hornzilla?
DML: hornzilla?
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:38:42 -0400
From: Aldo.Buono@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Wanted: Part #105721 Rear Screen Upper Finish
If anyone has this part without any cracks or damage, and wants to
sell it, please email me at aldo.buono@xxxxxxxxx
The part is pictured at 8-3-0 of the Parts Manual.
Thanx, Aldo Buono
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 08:48:08 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean International Magazine
To my great surprise, when I got home from work yesterday the
commencement issue of the DeLorean Motor Club's DeLorean
International Magazine was waiting in my mailbox. The cover picture of
the wooden mockup in Ulster is very cool.
I haven't finished reading it yet, but I noticed a unique feature that I
wanted to point out to everyone else who has it. The picture of Ken
Koncelik on page 9 was obviously taken at the DMC Houston (former
Kapac) warehouse in Columbus, Ohio. If you look behind Ken, you can
see a stack of never-used DeLorean frames from the factory.
Naturally, the reprint of Knut's "Historical Prices" article is great.
It will be
particularly valuable to any first time DeLorean shoppers (if they didn't
already read it in the DeLorean Club of Oregon's newsletter).
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 09:34:51 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Air Conditioner Electrical Problem
Two years ago my air conditioner quit working. Based on advice from
the DML I assumed a freon leak. I asked Walt, my mechanic, to find the
leak and recharge the A/C for me.
Circling my car with his freon sniffer, Walt eventually found the tiny
leak.
It was in a small fitting on the heat exchanger at the front of the car.
As
he tightened the fitting, Walt remarked:
"How about that. Fifteen years old, and the only thing wrong with the air
conditioner is a loose fitting . . . I wish every car were made as well as
the DeLorean!"
Recently my A/C stopped working again. Assuming another leak I took it
to Walt. To my surprise he found the freon charge is still full! The
reason
my compressor fails to engage seems to be purely electrical, and it's up
to me to figure it out.
I found excellent A/C electrical diagnostic advice in DML the backissue
dated 6/14/97. However, my problem is different from that. Instead of
cycling every three seconds, my compressor does not cycle at all. I
know the system is getting some power, because when the system is
turned on the fuse gets hot but does not blow.
Does anyone have advice for me?
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 13:53:27 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Wanted: Part #105721 Rear Screen Upper Finish
Aldo,
DeLorean Motor Company in Houston, 1-800-USA-DMC1 offers this part # for
$31.39. You can also order the part from their website.
www.usadmc.com/store
Hope this helps,
Duke
Aldo.Buono@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> If anyone has this part without any cracks or damage, and wants to
> sell it, please email me at aldo.buono@xxxxxxxxx
>
> The part is pictured at 8-3-0 of the Parts Manual.
>
> Thanx, Aldo Buono
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:37:24 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
>Did you say you put a couple cans of Amsoil Oil?
>The auto tranny holds in the final drive holds 3.6 pints, almost two
>quarts.
>I believed the auto tranny holds more then two quarts with the converter,
>at
>least over 6 quarts total????
Yikes! I thought the 3.6 pints was the only fluid!
How can I get to the other stuff?
>In any either case I believe you have mixed a synthetic base oil with a
>petroleum base oil.
>By doing so you have contaminated your tranny?
>I was told you cannot mix the two oil.
Yeah, I was told the same thing, and I didn't think I was doing so...
Well,
I'm going back to get a vaccum modulator installed next week, I'll have
them flush and fill all 6 quarts... Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:42:38 -0500
From: Gowler Don-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
The question still remains. How do you get the tranny completely
drained?
The Silver Fox
>>The auto tranny holds in the final drive 3.6 pints, almost two quarts.
>>I believed the auto tranny holds more then two quarts with the converter,
>>at least over 6 quarts total
>
>Yikes! I thought the 3.6 pints was the only fluid!
>How can I get to the other stuff?
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 14:54:36 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: Binnacle Removal (was: DML: Dash Lamps)
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
snip snip snip
> Could you out line the steps in removing the binnacle? I am about to do a
> speedo replacement and repair the lens retainer. The manual is not very
> clear on the process of removal.
>
> thanks
>
> Lee
>
> Radiance Software International
> 1726 Francisco Street
> Berkeley California 94703 USA
> Tel: 510-649-9118 Fax: 510-848-7613
> lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx
LEE, Travis has a procedure on his web page for the binnacle removal.
Check out the link below.
http://edge.net/~thgraham/projects/binnacle.htm
Scott Mueller
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:26:04 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DMC-80 brochure now online
I guess I opened a can of worms by offering to send the bus brochure. I've
been beseiged with requests and it's really a bit time consuming as it's a
six page color brochure and I have a slightly aging computer.
Travis was kind enough to list his web site so it's readily available
there.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:30:15 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Wanted: Part #105721 Rear Screen Upper Finish
I tried to order this a while back and was told it was unavailable. It's
such an essential part ( it holds the 'T' roof down ) that I'm surprised
no
one has attempted to reproduce it.
Bruce Benson
> From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: DML: Wanted: Part #105721 Rear Screen Upper Finish
> Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 1:53 PM
>
> Aldo,
>
>
> DeLorean Motor Company in Houston, 1-800-USA-DMC1 offers this part # for
> $31.39. You can also order the part from their website.
> www.usadmc.com/store
>
> Hope this helps,
>
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 20:33:26 -0400
From: DJS912@xxxxxxxxx (Danny Smith)
Subject: Re: DML: DMC
Andy - The noise you refer to only happens in the BTTF movies.
Actually I certainly prefer the doors being silent when opened.
Dan
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 20:50:08 -0400
From: David Sontos <sontos@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Binnacle Removal (was: DML: Dash Lamps)
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Could you out line the steps in removing the binnacle? I am
>about to do a speedo replacement and repair the lens retainer.
>The manual is not very clear on the process of removal.
>
> thanks
> Lee
1) Disconnect the positive battery cable from the battery.
2) Push the drivers seat all the way back or better yet take it out.
3) Laying on your back, looking under the dash, remove the two knee/shin
pads on either side of the steering column. The parts manual calls them
"FR ROLL DRIVER". Each pad has four nuts (10mm socket)holding it to the
dash.
4) There are six smaller nuts holding the binnacle to the dash, four
with big flat washers (1-1/4"D) where the binnacle attaches to the
fibreglass dash, and two nuts at the steering column attaching bracket.
I don't remember the socket size, maybe 8mm. The binnacle should easily
pull up now.
5) There are two large connectors and the speedometer cable attached to
the back of the binnacle. Grasp the connectors on the sides to release
the locks holding them in place. Unhook the speedometer cable by
depressing the spring clip where the cable goes into the back of the
instrument panel. (This is where you need three hands.) Push in the
spring, pull back on the speedo cable, and hold the binnacle at the same
time.
6) Your done.....
While you have the binnacle off, take a pair of needle nose pliers and
pull out the inner speedo cable, lube it in 90 Gear Oil and slip it back
in the casing.
I also "adjusted" the front binnacle bracket because the binnacle was
sitting on top of my steering column which would only go half way up in
adjustment height. Now when I'm driving I can see the instrument panel
without looking under the steering wheel.
Good Luck,
Dave Sontos
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:46:41 EDT
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
The Silver Fox,
No harm intended. Just trying to locate a time line on you. Dexron II
was
introduced in the 1970s, so if you where driving then........you should
be old
enough to know.
Took it for granted since you didn't know therefore you must be a younger
person.
I remember the time before Dexron II, when Dexron was only the auto
tranny oil
in use.
I guess I am old, eh?
Again, sorry and no harm intended.
Kayo Ong
#05508
LIc 9D NY
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:55:26 -0700
From: "Rod" <raa25@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: "Sticky Steering"
Hello,
I've owned my Delorean for about 4 months now and I love it. I've never =
had any problems. the only complaint I have is that the Steering seems =
to "sticky" ( that's only way I can discibe it) When you go to turn, =
it's not smooth. It's a real pain going down the freeway because you =
have to keep correcting yourself.=20
Has anyone else had this problem?
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:41:55 -0500
From: "Thomas Bohmier" <bohmier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
Folks:
I saw something very interesting recently. I was at one at, I think, Jiffy
Lube getting an oil change. They were promoting some new fangled device
they had that replaced all of the oil in the transmission. Apparently it
sucks out all 9 or so quarts out and pumps in fresh transmission fluid, of
your choice (conventional or synthetic) back into the car. That way you
are
assured of a 100% old change verse diluting old oil with new oil.
Thomas Bohmier
- ----------
> From: Gowler Don-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: 'dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
> Date: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 4:08 PM
>
> Thanks for all the help guys.
> Interesting to note that regardless if you drain it hot or cold the most
> you will get out is just short of 3 quarts - the pan. The other 6 or so
> quarts remain in the transmission so all you are doing is just
> refreshing the fluid. Do you agree Joe?
>
> Regards, The Silver Fox
>
> >----------
> >From: Brandon S. Moody
> >Reply To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 1998 12:23 AM
> >To: DMC List
> >Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
> >
> >> I notice that the manual suggest changing the automatic transmission
> >> fluid while it is hot - why is that?
> >>
> >> Also, I notice that the fluid level on the dip stick is over the 'Hot'
> >> mark when it is cold - one would assume too much fluid. Yet
> >> it is below the 'Cold' mark when it is hot - one would assume
> >> not enough fluid. Any insights on this phenomena?
> >
> >Changing the fluid when HOT is just like engine oil. It
> >flows much better and you are more likely to get all of
> >it to drain out. As for the correct level, make sure you
> >are checking the fluid correctly. The fluid should be warm,
> >in park, and engine running. Also, on level ground. Fluid
> >somewhere between the full and low mark is fine.
> >
> >-Brandon
> >
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:25:37 +0200 (MET DST)
From: stadak@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Re: other dmc products
Hello everybody,
The other week I was in some shop here in my town when all of a sudden I
saw
all sorts of car hifi-installation-stuff, like loudspeakers and all, with
the name DeLorean on them. It might be coincedence and all, but I doubt
that. The typing they used on the products was also rather futuristic,
though not the same as the typing used by the DeLorean Motor Company.
Does anybody know more about these products?
Greetings from Arnie Schurink!
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:44:30 -0400
From: "Mike Thomas" <comptrol@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
I think 3.6 pints was the final drive, which in my car is full of ATF
instead of the gear oil it should have. I guarantee you that at least
FOUR
QUARTS are necessary as I found out the hard way when my tranny slipped
its
way down 100 miles of asphalt ribbon after I replaced my governor
computer a
couple of months ago. The level is VERY difficult to check because every
time you add some you completely cover the dipstick and the thing looks
full, even if you wipe / insert / wipe / insert, etc. TEN times or more
like
I did. I found out the hard way that with 3.6 pints of ATF it's like you
don't even have a tranny - the car will not move in any gear. If it
slips,
add more!
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:04:27 -0400
From: Steve <dmc@xxxxxxx>
Subject: re: DML: Air Conditioner Electrical Problem
> From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Two years ago my air conditioner quit working. Based on advice from
> the DML I assumed a freon leak. I asked Walt, my mechanic, to find the
> leak and recharge the A/C for me.
[...]
> "How about that. Fifteen years old, and the only thing wrong with the air
> conditioner is a loose fitting . . . I wish every car were made as well as
> the DeLorean!"
I just thought I'd relate my air conditioning story; I recently bought a
Canadian DeLorean, which is low mileage (or is that kilometerage?) and had
spent most of it's time garaged. The owner told me that the A/C had never
been serviced, that she hadn't used it, and that she doubted if it was in
working order. I traveled up there, fully expecting to have to recharge
the A/C at the least. But to my surprise, it had one of the coldest A/Cs
I've ever experienced in a car, and on the original charge of freon!
-Steve <dmc@xxxxxxx>
VIN 017117
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 16:16:02 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: "Sticky Steering"
Rod,
Try this, locate the rubber grommet that surrounds the steering column at
the fire wall, and give it a shot of WD-40. If the problem goes away it
means that this rubber part has dried out and needs to be replaced.
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: Rod <raa25@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: "Sticky Steering"
> Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 10:55 PM
>
> Hello,
>
> I've owned my Delorean for about 4 months now and I love it. I've never =
> had any problems. the only complaint I have is that the Steering seems =
> to "sticky" ( that's only way I can discibe it) When you go to turn, =
> it's not smooth. It's a real pain going down the freeway because you =
> have to keep correcting yourself.=20
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 17:20:03 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Cure for "sticky" steering?
Rod said:
> . . . the only complaint I have is that the Steering seems to "stick"
> ( that's only way I can discibe it) When you go to turn, it's not
> smooth. It's a real pain going down the freeway because you
> have to keep correcting yourself.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
Sounds like you have a worn out steering rack. The same thing
happened to me last year. I wanted to replace the rack, but I discovered
that not all of the normal DeLorean parts suppliers have them. Bauerle
Automotive's ad in DeLorean World Magazine specifically mentions that
they have the racks, so I called them and ordered one.
That fixed the problem perfectly. You can find Bauerle Automotive listed
as a DeLorean parts supplier in DeLorean World Magazine or at the DOA
website. Dave Bauerle's phone number is (614) 595-3348
Note that driving with a worn out rack can be dangerous. Your front
wheels can suddenly begin to shimmy for no reason. If this is the
problem you have then I suggest you repair it immediately.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 16:30:57 -0500
From: Jordan Gary <jordang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: "Sticky Steering"
Yes, Rod I got my car a few months ago and mine is the same way. I have
gone
to great lenghts to oil the stearing column, to no real improvement. I am
wondering if it is because of my tires which are Dunlop, and most people
are
recommending other brands. The stickiness is not noticeable when the
front
tires are off the gound by jacking up the car. Jordan Gary
Rod wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've owned my Delorean for about 4 months now and I love it. I've never =
> had any problems. the only complaint I have is that the Steering seems =
> to "sticky" ( that's only way I can discibe it) When you go to turn, =
> it's not smooth. It's a real pain going down the freeway because you =
> have to keep correcting yourself.=20
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:30:37 -0700
From: "Ryan Bennett" <rpbennet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: "Sticky Steering"
>I've owned my Delorean for about 4 months now and I love it. I've never =
>had any problems. the only complaint I have is that the Steering seems =
>to "sticky" ( that's only way I can discibe it) When you go to turn, =
>it's not smooth. It's a real pain going down the freeway because you =
>have to keep correcting yourself.=20
>
>Has anyone else had this problem?
>
I notice the same thing on mine. The steering is VERY sensitive, but it
only
seems to want to turn in "increments" as if some gear splines line up at
certain points only. Not real smoothly as you say. I too am curious as to
how common this is.
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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:48:08 -0400
From: bvaillancourt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Benoit Vaillancourt)
Subject: DML: question
Does somebody knows or is aware that there's a new site of the film Back
to
the Future..?
www.backtothefuture.com
It's under construction... and who knows the web master, is he on the list
?
Benoit Vaillancourt
bvaillancourt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:55:23 -0500
From: thgraham@xxxxxxxx (Travis Graham)
Subject: DML: DMC-80 bus brochure
For those of you who are interested, the DMC-80 bus brochure is now
complete. All pages with the exception of one (a blank page) are now
online
at http://edge.net/~thgraham/dmc-80.htm.
Travis
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:01:09 -0700
From: "Todd Connors" <TCConnors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: hornzilla?
Fellow DML'ers:
Might any of you know of a large, American-sounding horn that will fit =
the DeLorean? The wimpy 'honk' from mine (which seems to function =
normally) doesn't carry very well in traffic, particularly to raised =
SUVs, which have an especially hard time seeing us.
I'd appreciate any info on the matter.
Thanks,
TC Connors
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 00:12:40 -0400
From: Vicki Miller <"1000mil@xxxxxxx"@gte.net>
Subject: Re: DML: "Sticky Steering"
Rod wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I've owned my Delorean for about 4 months now and I love it. I've never =
> had any problems. the only complaint I have is that the Steering seems =
> to "sticky" ( that's only way I can discibe it) When you go to turn, =
> it's not smooth. It's a real pain going down the freeway because you =
> have to keep correcting yourself.=20
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
rod best guess is that the rack is out of oil . also might want to
check the steering bushing at the end of the column.it might need some
wd 40 good luck bob miller
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 18:05:34 -0700
From: Mostafa Sayed <phoenixl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: History Channel Poll
Hi,
I just wrote to remind everyone to cast their vote for DeLorean as
the best car ever.
At http://www.historychannel.com if you have not done that then do it
now. We need as many votes as possible. Anyone with a DMC website put a
reminder to all your visitors on your homepage to do that.
Also another announcement. I have made a DeLorean Desktop theme for
windows 95' you can download it and an installer at my homepage at
http://members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/index.html
I find a picture of a DeLorean on page 20 of the June issue of
Scientific American. With an article about time-travel next to it. Worth
a look.
Mostafa
http://members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/index.html
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 20:51:50 -0600
From: "Gremlin" <gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DeLorean in a new game
I've been on this list for a while, but have never had much to reply about
=)
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but there's also a DeLorean
in
Resident Evil 2, for the Sony PlayStation. It's more of a background
object
than anything else, but it looks pretty good. Also, in Need for Speed 3,
there's a technical something-or-other about them, though you can't
actually
drive one [yet; we're trying to find a GameShark code, or something]
- --Gremlin
- -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Wolter <kwolter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'DMC News' <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, 26 May, 1998 09:01
Subject: DML: DeLorean in a new game
>I just spotted our favorite car in an upcoming game called Interstate 82 =
>(sequel to Interstate 76). Go to http://www.activision.com and select =
>Interstate 82 from the drop list to see our car packing quite a bit of =
>heat.
>
>The best I can find for a release date is "Action gaming will enter a =
>new arena this winter..." Has anybody heard when this game will be =
>released? Hopefully the DeLorean will be in the released version.
>
>The screen shots don't look too bad but I wonder if they have a real =
>model of a DeLorean to work from or if they are using pictures from =
>magazines. Is there anybody on the DML list in the Santa Monica, CA =
>area that could go over and let them get some really good pictures and =
>measurements of a DeLorean to work from?
>- Kevin #6810
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:46:55 +0000
From: ausmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Headlights
Hi,
There was some discussion of the Sylvania colored headlights. Has
anyone tried them?
Chris
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 07:43:23 -0400
From: "Ronald Pohala" <rpohala@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: I want to go to Cinncinnati
Please tell me where I could get details and directions. Need all the info
or I will not make it.
Thanks Ron
rpohala@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 13:18:26 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: How to get Cincinnati Car Show Info
Ron said:
> Please tell me where I could get details and directions. Need all the
> info or I will not make it.
The DeLorean Car Show has a web page:
http://idt.net/~dmc1219/
If you don't have a web browser, you can get an automatic E-mail packet
of information by sending any Email message to the Car Show
Autoresponder at:
show98@xxxxxxxxxxx
You can also contact Ken Koncelik, the show's organizer directly:
KKoncelik@xxxxxxx
I hope to see you in Cincinnati!
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:36:29 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: hornzilla?
>the DeLorean? The wimpy 'honk' from mine (which seems to function =
>normally) doesn't carry very well in traffic, particularly to raised =
>SUVs, which have an especially hard time seeing us.
>
You may want to try JC Whitney ( http://www.jcwhitneyusa.com ) they have a
"fog horn" replacement.. that may suit your needs....
Dave
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:40:26 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Headlights
>
>There was some discussion of the Sylvania colored headlights. Has
>anyone tried them?
>
>Chris
>
Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Actually the brand is Phillips, and I've yet to find a place to buy our
size
headlights. JC Whitney sells them in the "other" larger size... I'm
still
lookin' though.. Phillips contacted me and said there are only two places
to get them, JC Whitney and some auto parts distributor, but the number
Phillips gave me wasn't a retail/mailorder number, it was for their
dealers...?
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:29:46 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: hornzilla?
Todd,
Generic replacement horns are readily available at most auto supply
stores.
Be sure to get one "hi note" and one "low note" single terminal unit, a
relay is not required. If you want more volume specify 130db, if you can't
find one check out JC Whitney out of Chicago (13YV3190A high freq. &
13YV3191R low freq.) 12.95 ea..
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: Todd Connors <TCConnors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: hornzilla?
> Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 1:01 AM
>
> Fellow DML'ers:
>
> Might any of you know of a large, American-sounding horn that will fit =
> the DeLorean? The wimpy 'honk' from mine (which seems to function =
> normally) doesn't carry very well in traffic, particularly to raised =
> SUVs, which have an especially hard time seeing us.
>
> I'd appreciate any info on the matter.
>
> Thanks,
> TC Connors
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:40:01 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: AC Freon Warning.
I've notice the price of R-12 Freon dropping.
As discussed before, there have been some R-12 Blends that are being
sold as cheaper R-12 refrigerant.
In discussion with a local AC mechanic about the dropping prices, he
told me that it is not uncommon for blends to now be advertised as "Pure
R-12". What surprised me was what the R-12 was blended with.
Many of the cheaper "Pure" R-12's are blended with Propane! The up side
is that Propane actually cools better than R-12, and is non-CFC. But,
the down side is that a small leek could make you and your
Delorean....Well.. Dead!
He included some stories that could be fact or urban legend, but either
way be aware of this when purchasing R-12. This mechanic had a machine
that would tell him the purity of the R12/R134A, but the real kicker is
that (he claims) when he has detected propane, the propane breaks the
machine!
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:44:52 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: hornzilla?
I had considered this. Even went as far as to buy new horns. Then, I
honked the horn a few times with the doors open. I realized that they
are pretty loud already, they just seem low in the car.
I do prefer the sound of a American horn better, but I kept it original
and returned the replacement horns.
Todd Connors wrote:
>
> Fellow DML'ers:
>
> Might any of you know of a large, American-sounding horn that will fit =
> the DeLorean? The wimpy 'honk' from mine (which seems to function =
> normally) doesn't carry very well in traffic, particularly to raised =
> SUVs, which have an especially hard time seeing us.
>
> I'd appreciate any info on the matter.
>
> Thanks,
> TC Connors
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:52:01 EDT
From: KKoncelik@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: I want to go to Cinncinnati
Be glad to most of the information is on the web site
http://idt.net/~dmc1219
<A HREF="" href="http://idt.net/~dmc1219">http://idt.net/~dmc1219">click here</A>
If you need reservations let me know ASAP its winding down
Ken
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:55:32 EDT
From: KKoncelik@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: I want to go to Cinncinnati
The dinner is Friday at The Gregory center on Pete Rose way next to the
Crown
Colleseuium, Saturday is at the Museum Center exit 1H Ezzard Charles and
Sunday is in columbus at Kapac the DMC Warehouse
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:57:39 -0500
From: Jordan Gary <jordang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: "Sticky Steering"
> >
> >rod best guess is that the rack is out of oil . also might want to
> check the steering bushing at the end of the column.it might need some
> wd 40 good luck bob miller
Does anybody know if you can oil the rack without removing it. The manual
talks about removing it and putting gear oil in the left side. But I wonder
if
I could put a small hose from a manual pump into the rack. I am thinking of
loosening up the drivers side stearing rack boot (where you adjust the tie
rod
ends) and pumping in some oil. Will this help? My car only has 40,000
miles
and I doubt that the rack is worn out. It has no excess play in it. Jordan
Gary vin 0987 with a sticky problem
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:10:57 -0700
From: Jason Perkins <jperkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: New owner questions
As a new 83', DMC, 5spd, 2,500 miles owner I have a couple questions. First
of all I'm located in Charlotte, NC and was hoping there were other owners
out this direction- are there?. Also does there happen to be a DMC repair
shop within a few hundred miles around here? (Not that I need it yet)
Jason Perkins
* Jperkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:09:39 -0800
From: "tomcio" <tomcio@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DML: DMC-80 bus brochure
Hi All,
I don't know where you got this brochure, but it doesn't look to be
real. I mean that this bus on a picture is just a regular FFG German
bus (prototype to be exact). It's not made by DMC and the DMC-80 logo
is added to the picture and it's not done very well. I don't believe
that this bus was made by or for DMC. Thanks.
Tom
vin 6298
thgraham@xxxxxxxx (Travis Graham) wrote on Friday June 5, 1998 at
10:14am:
>For those of you who are interested, the DMC-80 bus brochure is now
>complete. All pages with the exception of one (a blank page) are
now
>online
>at http://edge.net/~thgraham/dmc-80.htm.
>
>Travis
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:08:18 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: AC Freon Warning.
>As discussed before, there have been some R-12 Blends that are being
>sold as cheaper R-12 refrigerant.
Hey! Where was this message four hours ago? I just got back from
Sears (Liffy Lube) to get the system charged! Although I looked
at the tank they were pulling the freon out of, and there wasn't any
indication from the label on it that there was anything in there but
R-12..... It was $50/lb (and even though they put in 2.2, they only
charged me $100) How much did it used to be if the prices have
dropped? (or did I pay the high price?)
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:42:30 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: hornzilla?
I, too, thought the DMC horns were a bit easy to ignore. I installed
German "hella's". They are not "American" sounding, but they do get your
attention. Easy fit - no re-wiring.
Dick Ryan
- ----------------------------
Fellow DML'ers:
>
>Might any of you know of a large, American-sounding horn that will fit =
>the DeLorean? The wimpy 'honk' from mine (which seems to function =
>normally) doesn't carry very well in traffic, particularly to raised =
>SUVs, which have an especially hard time seeing us.
>
>I'd appreciate any info on the matter.
>
>Thanks,
>TC Connors
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:44:35 -0500
From: steve r <stephenr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLoreans in Movies
A while back there was discussion about which movies have had
DeLoreans in them. Today I was watching a movie called "Quack
Busters". Its a Daffy Duck and Buggs Bunny movie. During the beginning
of the movie Daffy is being a sales man and he is trying to see cars.
Guess what type of car he is selling? You guessed right! DeLoreans!!!
Of coarse the cars in this animated movie look nothing like the real
thing. I just thought it was pretty cool and that some others might
like to rent the movie so they can see the cartoon version of the D.
Another thing I have recently observed is that there is a new movie
coming out soon that uses the good old BTTF theme song in the
commercial. I may go see the movie just so I can hear the BTTF music in
it. I think the name of the movie is "Little Soldier". It sounds like
it may be a stupid movie but I may just go see it anyway.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:07:10 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: AC Idler Pulleys Bearing Replacement Procedure
Today, my wife and I went out for Idian Food at lunch time. Now I have
been tinkering with my DeLorean all spring. This is the first time she
has riden in it in a year.
So of course something goes wrong, the bearings for the AC idler pulleys
go bad. We heard a growl and rumbling noise while sitting in traffic in
downtown Mobile. If you didn't know, we are having a heat wave.
Imagine trying to breath while in a steam bath, yep, thats Mobile
Alabama.
I went down to "Motion Industries" and bought two 6202 sealed bearings
for $6.52 each.
To change the bearings do the following:
Removal
Apply penetrating oil
Loosen lower idler bolts 11 mm
Back out belt tightning bolt 13 mm
Remove belt
Remove upper idler 11 mm
Remove lower idler 11 mm
NOTE: Remember where the spacers go, and do not lose the O-ring behind
the head block cover plate.
Clean pulleys, apply penetrating oil
Remove nut and stud assembley, note direction that pulleys are mounted
on brackets
Remove tru-arc clips
Find a socket or piece of pipe that fits the OD of the bearing, drive
the bearing out.
Installation
Clean pully ID
Carefully, tap the bearing in the pully using the socket that fits the
OD of the bearing.
Stand the car up on its nose to facilitate assembley
Apply anti sieze to all bolt threads
Install head block cover plate, clean o-ring and lightly oil, use lower
bolt
Install upper pully assembley with long 11 mm bolt, right hand side
Remove head block cover plate lower bolt
install lower pully assembly with lower bolt, use long spacer here
Install the bolt that you removed from the head block cover plate, use
the short spacer here.
Tighten the upper bolt
Install belt
Tension belt
Tighten all bolts
Put the car back down on all four wheels.
If you were unable to stand the car up on its nose, an anti-gravity
device would be nice, or perhapes if you have four tiny hands, you won't
end up swearing as much as I did.
It really wasn't that bad, the short spacer was thge most difficult part
to put in. Next time, if I remember, I will glue the spacer in place
with some silicon.
Total cost of repair
$13.06
Actual repair time
1 hour
Scott Mueller
Vin 2981
1981, 5 Speed, Grey
See you in Cincinatti
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 02:33:39 +0100
From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <msg101@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: hornzilla?
Of the two cars we had on our stand at the Birmingham show, the "younger"
one
definitely had a louder and better horn when it came to the
end of the show and every car in the place let rip :-)
It leads me to wonder if it wasn't just the bonnets, tailpipes etc. that
were
changed throughout the production run...
Hope you don't all blame the weedy horn on it being "European" :-)
Best Wishes,
Martin
Marc A Levy wrote:
> I had considered this. Even went as far as to buy new horns. Then, I
> honked the horn a few times with the doors open. I realized that they
> are pretty loud already, they just seem low in the car.
>
> I do prefer the sound of a American horn better, but I kept it original
> and returned the replacement horns.
>
> Todd Connors wrote:
> >
> > Fellow DML'ers:
> >
> > Might any of you know of a large, American-sounding horn that will fit =
> > the DeLorean? The wimpy 'honk' from mine (which seems to function =
> > normally) doesn't carry very well in traffic, particularly to raised =
> > SUVs, which have an especially hard time seeing us.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any info on the matter.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > TC Connors
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 21:19:51 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: hornzilla?
At 04:44 PM 6/5/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I had considered this. Even went as far as to buy new horns. Then, I
>honked the horn a few times with the doors open. I realized that they
>are pretty loud already, they just seem low in the car.
>
>I do prefer the sound of a American horn better, but I kept it original
>and returned the replacement horns.
>
>
>Todd Connors wrote:
reply:
Hornzilla, Yes indeed!
I too have found the original horn to be simply pathetic in volume and
pitch.
The real problem I seem to be encountering is the lack of basic horn
information. There are lots of horns, with various db ratings and High
pitch, Low pitch, but I don't understand anything about horns, why is a
high +low recommended as opposed to say two High or two low units. What if
any is the db range permitted? are there DOT rules that deal with auto
horns?
Not so long ago while in San Francisco I heard two very different auto
horns, one sounded like a bird chirping??? it was very odd sounding, I
could not tell which Low rider car it was. On the same day I also heard one
that sounded like an elephant farting, it was low in freq, very lowed and
got my attention, but I did not really associate it with a car horn at
first!
When I was a kid my dads car had an "AHooogggaaaahhhh" horn he ran by
pushing down on a rounded peddle on the top of the horn. I like that one.
Any one have comments on auto horn theory? application, restrictions.
Lee
Radiance Software International
1726 Francisco Street
Berkeley California 94703 USA
Tel: 510-649-9118 Fax: 510-848-7613
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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