dmcnews-digest Tuesday, March 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 490
In this issue:
DML: 1981 Automatic Transmission
DML: Seat Covers...
Re: DML: re: Fire Damage
Re: DML: Conversion
Re: [DML: Idle DMC]
DML: Old Computer Governor
DML: Delorean Parts for sale
Re: DML: 1/24 Model
Re: DML: Fire Damage
DML: rear side window
DML: Plastic DeLorean (not BTTF) Model Source
Re: DML: Hard shifting
DML: Re: rear side window
DML: Re: 1981 Automatic Transmission
DML: 1981 DeLorean For Sale
DML: New DMC Owner... Finally!!
Re: DML: Hard shifting
DML: My Favorite Story
Re: DML: Hard shifting
Re: DML: New DMC Owner... Finally!!
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:35:54 -0800
From: "Jim Smith" <stonemll@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: 1981 Automatic Transmission
I want to have the transmission serviced but I'm uncertain as to the =
make. I believe it may be a Renault. Also I'm unable to shift into low =
gear - Could this be a simple linkage adjustment? Please advise. Many =
thanks.=20
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:10:39 -0500
From: "." <jdl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Seat Covers...
I just removed the sheepskins from my D, which had been on the car for ="">
10+ years. The seats on the car are very, very nice. It seems to me =
that the leather on the left part of the drivers seat is more likely to =
get worn/damaged by regular careful use than the rest of the seat. Does =
anyone know of a flap/cover (preferably a similar color matching =
leather/vinyl) that can be made/bought to cover this area, to prevent =
premature wear. Just asking!
David
Cleveland =20
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:06:35 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: re: Fire Damage
I have 2 decent inside shots of this car at
http://remus.rutgers.edu/~mxl/dmc/cinn/cin.html
Mike Substelny wrote:
<SNIP>
> cosmetic and (B) your goal is to create a custom interior (like Curtiss
> Bryant's car we saw in Cincinnati). Many websites feature pictures of
> this car. Here are two:
<SNIP>
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:01:32 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Conversion
Yes!! Please document this project. I have always been interested in
doing this same conversion, but my knowledge of the Buick GN motor is
lacking. I am more familiar with the SHO motor, but the Yammaha V6 is
too expensive for such a project.
What Trans are you using? What special mounts will you need made? Can
they be produced in numbers? You may want to hook up with some other
people to produce a number of "conversion kits".
If you are in the area (New Jersey), I'm available to help.
Geoffroy Birtz wrote:
>
> Hi yall,
>
> the Wankel sounds like the expensive route. I'm presently converting my D.
> I picked a Buick v6 model T out of a Grand National.
> It puts out about 250 and with very minor changes can easily fetch 350hp.
> I got lower front springs from PJ Grady.
> I got rims from Simmons, 16x7 in front and 17x8 in back
> I'm putting 205/45/16 in front and 255/45/17 in back.
> on the not performance side of things I got the headliner redone.
> I'd like to change the two lights to one long light in front. I've seen
> doctored pictures that smudge the to lights together and it looks good.
> Don't know if anything is available.
> If anybody is interested I can post the progress, As of this morning, the
> PVR is out.
>
> Geoffroy
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Date: 5 Mar 99 05:09:42 PST
From: KIRK BRANDON <delorean02378@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [DML: Idle DMC]
dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
There is a DMC that has been idle a block away from me for nearly a =
decade. During this period, I have tried to buy it several times. By =
now it needs a complete interior job and engine rebuild as well as a new =
windshield; a tree limb took it out. Is it worth restoring? I'd hate =
to see it parted out. How much would it be worth? Any help would be =
appreciated.
Evan
_________________________________________________________________________=
_
Evan,
My "D" also sat for 10 years. I took it to Atlanta last weekend to get it=
restored. How much you ask? Right now I'm looking at about $6,500.00. I g=
uess
it depends on the car your looking at. How many miles, auto or manual, do=
es
the frame have any rust, was there gas in the tank when it was parked,? J=
ust
look it over with a fine tooth comb. How much is the owner asking? If you=
want
a complete list of parts you can E-mail me and I'll be glad to send you a=
list
of parts I had to buy. Good Luck.
Kirk Vin#02378 =
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:39:24 -0500
From: David Sontos <sontos@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Old Computer Governor
Now that I've replaced my old computer governor in my automatic
transmission, I was wondering if anyone was interested in buying my old
one. Send e-mail if interested.
Dave Sontos
vin 02573
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:17:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Ben Krasnow <kraz@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Delorean Parts for sale
I have a pair of original NCT tires for sale (for the front). They don't
have a whole lot of tread left on them (I can measure it exactly if
someone is
interested), but the side walls look fine (no cuts or cracks). Highest
reasonable
offer plus shipping takes them, otherwise I have to throw them out. I
also have an original plastic coolant tank. I don't really know what this
is worth, but it's probably more to someone else, than me; so highest
reasonable offer takes this one too. I live in the SF Bay Area, if
someone local is interested. Thanks email: kraz@xxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:47:37 -0600
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: 1/24 Model
There is a scale model being produced right now. Unfortunately the
limited
run is sold out.
Fellow list member Lee Seilers design and manufactured them and the
assembly
instructions are being written.
Search the back issues and you will find the link. I do not currently
have
it on my PC
Scott Mueller
ScottMueller@xxxxxxxxx
1981/002981 DOA/DMCNEWS
Deep South Delorean Owners
Future Events Page
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm
April 3, 1999 Mobile, AL Camillia Classic
April 17, 1999 Pensacola, FL Beach Bash and All British Car Show
May 2, 1999 Townsend, TN Blount British Car Gathering
May 21-23, 1999, DeLorean Eastern Regional Run 9, hosted by DeLoreans of
New
England
- -----Original Message-----
From: chris walker <jackell@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: DML: 1/24 Model
>Nobody ever made a scale model of a D...yetIt would be greatly appreciated.
SNIPPED
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 20:27:44 +0000
From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Fire Damage
I'm presently looking at damaged DMCs to get parts to repare minor crash
damage to my car.
$7500 is very expensive if you have to replace the cockpit! Also
remember these things are fibreglass so how 'hot' did it get? The car is
probably only good for parts ... max value, about $3000 to $5000.
Cheers, IAN
DARRELL JENKINS wrote:
>
> I just came across a "81" D at a Salvage yard. It has 27K mi and it has =
> interior fire damage. They are asking $7,500. Now I'm only 19 yrs old and
> =
> I'm not reall sure that I can buy it. How hard (and expensive) is it to =
> find replacement parts (seats, dash, carpet) ? I have had 2 auto classes,
> =
> and I think I have pretty good but basic knowledge of cars and repair. Is
> =
> this going to be to big of a resto job? I havent seen the car yet. At a =
> price of only 7,500, I was thought may be some one could tell me what to =
> expect.
> Thanks,
> Darrell D.
>
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 18:11:25 -0800
From: Matt <matthias@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: rear side window
> One more unusual comment I forgot. I was showing someone the car and they
> asked me in a very knowledgeable tone, "has your rear window fallen out
> yet?"
> Once again I must ask, what does it take to convince people these days?
Try convincing my rear side window. It FELL out and I havn't found one
shop that wants to glue glas to stainless steel.
Matt
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:19:28 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Plastic DeLorean (not BTTF) Model Source
Art at All American models makes a plastic resin body, louvre, engine
cover and dash that are used as replacement parts in a standard BTTF kit
to make it in to a "stock" DeLorean. The parts run about $40 I believe
and it DOES require a BTTF "donor" kit for the rest of the parts.
Contact Art at "aamresin@xxxxxxx"
James
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Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 14:56:27 PST
From: "Marc Barth" <d16y8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Hard shifting
It is not necessary to let modern cars warm up. This was necessary with
carbuerated cars years ago. 30 seconds is ample warm up time for a
Delorean. Letting it warm up any longer is only contributing to
emissions and wasting gas.
>From: Jimbo0946@xxxxxxx
>Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:38:54 EST
>To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: DML: Hard shifting
>Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>dear dmler's
> I have the same problem. When it is cold out, it takes me a few
miles
>before the shifting becomes easy on cold days. I will be changing ot
the
>redline synthetic tomorrow, but I had another question. The owner's
>manuel
>says not to let the car warm up. I found that if I let it warms up a
>little,
>I don't see the trouble with the gears. Is it bad to let the car sit
>idle for
>a few minutes to let it warm up?
>
>Jim
>VIN#15880
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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 00:50:59 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: rear side window
Matt,
The secret is "glass primer 2" and "3M Polyurethane Adhesive # 16711.
These
are the factory ingredients that make the glass stick to the stainless
steel.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Web Site http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/3755/
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> From: Matt <matthias@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: rear side window
> Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 9:11 PM
>
> > One more unusual comment I forgot. I was showing someone the car and
they
> > asked me in a very knowledgeable tone, "has your rear window fallen out
> > yet?"
> > Once again I must ask, what does it take to convince people these days?
>
> Try convincing my rear side window. It FELL out and I havn't found one
> shop that wants to glue glas to stainless steel.
>
> Matt
>
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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 00:39:13 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: 1981 Automatic Transmission
Jim,
The transmission is a Renault R-30. If you are unable to shift into low,
you probably have a defective governor computer. If you would like
information in how to do a simple test to determine if the problem is in
the computer or elsewhere email us directly for more information.
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> From: Jim Smith <stonemll@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: 1981 Automatic Transmission
> Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 12:35 AM
>
> I want to have the transmission serviced but I'm uncertain as to the =
> make. I believe it may be a Renault. Also I'm unable to shift into low
=
> gear - Could this be a simple linkage adjustment? Please advise. Many =
> thanks.=20
>
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:28:41 -0600
From: cliff wallace <wms0@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: 1981 DeLorean For Sale
Black int/Auto-Trans/No hood flap/SS body/ 30,200 miles. $17,800 obo.
All electrical updates completed by DMC Houston, TX.
New fuel: pump, accumulator, warm-up regulator, filter, Brand new
Redesigned fuel distributor (not rebuilt). New auto trans computer
gov., A/T cooler lines, innner & outer seals, A/T shift cable and dip
stick.
New window regulators, door latches, cabin fan motor, distributor cap &
rotor, plugs, hoses and belts, rear main seal, trailing arm bolts,
engine mounts, inner & outer CV boots, New Tires (Front: Pirelli-Rear:
Goodyear Eldorado), new rear brake pads and rotors, front pads @ 55%,
new radiator & hoses and MORE.
As you can see, lots of time and money have gone into this machine to
make it run perfectly and safe to drive. I also have all repair records
and original owners manual+shop manual. I will be happy to sit down
with interested buyers and go over all repairs and upgrades with them.
Unfortunately my home music business has too much overhead. Sometimes
it's tough keeping up with the competition with all the computer
upgrades needed.
So, my D' doesn't get driven much. It needs a home with an owner who
will drive it. I hope someone out there is interested in purchasing
this fine automobile. Thanks
Cliff
Car Location: Moore, OK.
Ph. (405) 794-7708
Bus. Ph (405) 360-8702 or
wms0@xxxxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:16:16 EST
From: DeLorean31@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: New DMC Owner... Finally!!
Well I am the proud new owner of VIN 3360. A 1981 grey interior 5 speed
with
only 7,100 miles. I just finished driving a 1600 mile round trip to pick
my
new baby up on a trailer. It was a rough ride through the blizzard in
Pennsyvania and Ohio. Luckily that was during the trip out and not back.
In
any case I am getting the car cleaned up and cant wait to start enjoying
it
when the weather gets nice. I believe the car is all original with no
updates. Everything works and it runs well but I would appreciate any
comments from members on this list on what steps I should take or things
that
I should examine right away. Please email me privately ro cut down list
mail.
I hope to take it to PJ Gradys in the near future for a complete
inspection.
Well I just wanted to post a quick message here to thank everyone on the
list
for all their input. Reading the list mail and archives for the past few
months made the decision alot easier on which car I should buy. Can't
wait to
meet some other D owners in my area. I have met a couple so far and I
would
like to thank them as well, and also Rob Grady. When I made the trip to
his
shop to look at a D he had for sale, he gave me some great insights on
Deloreans. Thanks again
Gary
VIN 3360
(waited a while to be able to write that :-)
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 13:13:01 -0500
From: "Michael B. Kachmarik" <MKACHMAR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Hard shifting
Back in 1987 my delorean 1981 vin 1479 had the same shifting problems. The
fix for me was a new master cylinder located near the clutch peddle. price
about $125. could be less could be more now.
Marc Barth wrote:
> It is not necessary to let modern cars warm up. This was necessary with
> carbuerated cars years ago. 30 seconds is ample warm up time for a
> Delorean. Letting it warm up any longer is only contributing to
> emissions and wasting gas.
>
> >From: Jimbo0946@xxxxxxx
> >Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:38:54 EST
> >To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: DML: Hard shifting
> >Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >dear dmler's
> > I have the same problem. When it is cold out, it takes me a few
> miles
> >before the shifting becomes easy on cold days. I will be changing ot
> the
> >redline synthetic tomorrow, but I had another question. The owner's
> >manuel
> >says not to let the car warm up. I found that if I let it warms up a
> >little,
> >I don't see the trouble with the gears. Is it bad to let the car sit
> >idle for
> >a few minutes to let it warm up?
> >
> >Jim
> >VIN#15880
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:54:38 -0600
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <nick.kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: My Favorite Story
My favorite Delorean story is one I read (SSI?) where the owner was
filling
up at some out-of-the-way gas station. An old-timer was circling the car,
looking it over fairly carefully. When he finally spoke he said, "Ground
it
down to the bare metal, huh?"
I realize this thread occurred a while back but I'm a little behind in the
DML digest emails. Actually I've been trying to catch up and I'm now at
the
1.18.99 mailing. I hate it when work gets in the way of life. So if
everyone could slow down I could catch up :-)
Nick Kemp
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 11:03:15 -0800
From: Lee <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Hard shifting
At 02:56 PM 3/6/99 PST, you wrote:
>It is not necessary to let modern cars warm up. This was necessary with
>carbuerated cars years ago. 30 seconds is ample warm up time for a
>Delorean. Letting it warm up any longer is only contributing to
>emissions and wasting gas.
>
Hi Jim,
Hear we go again, Wink!
I don't think I agree with your statement that modern engines don't need
to
warm up.
So far as I understand, while the modern engines are made of better
materials, the fact is that there is a necessary clearance required to
allow for the expansion of the various parts made of various materials,
The
expansion is not the same for some parts as it is for others.
It may be true that the oil pressure may be up in 30 seconds, but I
suspect
any rip and roar will lead to harm. In addition to this I suspect that
even
if all 4000 running De Loreans in the US wormed up before heading out
would
contribute little if anything to the general pollution.
Plus the De Lorean is 17+ years old, hardly a modern engine, I wonder
where
the "old fashion engine stops, and the modern engine starts?" any thoughts
on that?
Lee
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:28:38 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx (Dick Ryan)
Subject: Re: DML: New DMC Owner... Finally!!
Welcome! Among things to do is to register in the lounge of the dmcnews
site. That way we will know where you live and you will know who we are.
http://www.dmcnews.com/directory.html
Then, between the archives and Rob at PJ Grady's you'll have all the
information you will ever need to "keep the dream alive".
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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