[DML] Digest Number 39
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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Manual Transmission Sensor?  What is this thing??
           From: "MrCopies" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
      2. Re: awesome delorean for sale on ebay
           From: "Richard Petrie" <juffo7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
      3. Re: fender reproduction
           From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx
      4. Re: Re: Historic Blunders
           From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
      5. Blower Motor Reversal
           From: Stephen Jarvis <jarvist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      6. Consumable Parts
           From: "J Rowe" <rowejj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
      7. Re:  Manual Transmission Sensor?  What is this thing??
           From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
      8. Re: Re: Historic Blunders
           From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      9. Re: Manual Transmission Sensor?  What is this thing??
           From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@xxxxxxx>
     10. RE: left front fenders
           From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
     11. Desktop theme
           From: BondAtomic@xxxxxxx
     12. 
           From: Stephen Jarvis <jarvist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     13. Ken's Facia Pix uploaded
           From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>


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Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 01:10:14 -0500
   From: "MrCopies" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Manual Transmission Sensor?  What is this thing??

Hi Gang!

Before I asked the list I checked both the archives and scoured the parts
and service books....maybe I'm just missing something.  If this seems like
a
stupid question - I apologize in advance.

I've been restoring my frame in the last month and since the engine and
transmission are out of the car I decided to do the exhaust manifold
gaskets
(GREAT kit from PJ Grady).

Tonight while removing the manifold on the drivers side, I came across a
hanging wire which looks like it's connected to a sensor (?) at the base
of
the manual transmission where it bolts to the engine.  This wire has been
cut (for a long time by the looks of things).   It's on the drivers side
of
the transmission right near the catalytic converter (but again it goes
directly into the transmission - at the pressure plate/flywheel).

Any ideas what this is supposed to be for?

Thanks
mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx
VIN#17089

www.mydelorean.com

"it's a sports car - of course it breaks down.... how else are you
supposed
to bond with it?"






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Message: 2
   Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 05:00:23 CDT
   From: "Richard Petrie" <juffo7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: awesome delorean for sale on ebay

Absolutely BEAUTIFUL!

I wonder why though the tach is buried in the red.. is this a hard fix?
With 
only 400+ miles on it I wonder why this would be!  Otherwise, THIS is so 
very tempting!!!!

Cheers,

Richard



You Wrote:
>
>81 delorean
>only 400+ miles!!!!!!!
>one owner
>
>I would love to buy this car, but im not in a position
>to do so after my getting #10854.
>
>I would like to see this car go to a good home and a
>good garage :)
>

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Message: 3
   Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 07:12:50 EDT
   From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: fender reproduction

I have looked into the cost of making a die to reproduce the fender. It
was 
kind of a what if type project and my job is to make dies.  I make steel 
residential door dies and we stamp the emboss into them so I have some 
experience with them.  A hard production tool will run well into the
$100,000 
++++ range depending on qualith and where it is built.  A soft tool can be

made for much less and is good for about 100 hits then its trash.  Either
way 
the cost per part will be far above what anyone would want to pay at this 
point and as James says the demand is not there because you still can find

them.  This may change once they cannot be found.  

If anyone wants to make a tool I have the presses to run it.

Ken


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Message: 4
   Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 10:09:05 EDT
   From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re: Historic Blunders

 
    The British Gov't did not confiscate the dies for the stainless steel 
panels. They were sold to a Salmon fisherman as scrap metal by the Thyssen

GmbH & Co to recoup on the tremendous losses in encountered with DeLorean.
    
     JZD went around on the talkshow circuit after his cocaine trial and
said 
that the British ruined the dies and threw them into the middle of
Galloway 
Bay. NOT TRUE.

    THE DIES WERE MADE BY THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES IN THE REPUBLIC OF 
IRELAND AND GERMANY. THEY WERE THE PROPERTY OF THE COMPANIES NOT THE UK 
GOVERNMENT OR DELOREAN MOTOR CO. LTD.
    When DMC went bankrupt in February 1982 it had a very hard time paying

for the parts and supplies DMC owed to various leading automobile
suppliers 
like Vita Cortex Ltd. Vita Cortex made the seat cushions for the car. DMC 
could not pay because is used up a $25,000,000.00 line of credit it had
with 
my company.
    JZD used up DMC's available credit from the 25 million, in order to 
increase production on the cars instead of paying the companies that DMC
owed 
for the parts and supplies. Renault was the hardest hit. The companies
wanted 
payment in some form or another, so it was not very happy to accept the 
losses from DMC. Many companies went bankrupt supplying parts for the 
DeLorean. These companies are still listed as creditors in the bankruptcy 
suit. Thyssen GmbH & Co received an offer from fisherman for the dies and 
accepted his offer. 

    STAINLESS STEEL- BSC Stainless steel is in Sheffield England. BSC
built a 
250     million dollar plant in Europe to provide stainless steel for 
DeLorean and the rest of        the market. BSC only made the steel, NOT
THE 
PANELS FOR THE DMC.

    MOLDS FOR DMC BODY - The inner hood and the rear louvre molds, the
front    
fenders molds and the dies for the assembly of the outer hood were made by

    THYSSEN MASCHINEBAU GmbH. This is a German Company. The fenders, outer

hood, louvre, and inner hood parts were stamped/fabricated at THYSSEN
MASCH.    
GmbH not at DMC. DMCL only assembled the hood assemblies at the factory.
The    
Fenders and Louvres' came in huge crates via Germany and Ireland to
Belfast.

    MOLDS FOR UPPER AND LOWER BODY PANELS were made by August Lapple
GmbH 
& Co. They are located in the Republic of Ireland. August Lapple is a
German    
company automobile tool and die company. It was started in 1919. Lapple

contracted with car companies in 1968 to supply automotive plastics. This

manufacturer made the VARI body molds. These molds are in the Columbus
Ohio     
Warehouse. These molds were used in the body press building at DMCL.
    
    Dies for the inner and outer rear quarter panels were supplied by 
ALLEGIARE-  WERKE GmbH. George Allegiare established his company in 1906. 
Allegiare   became one of the most important German automobile suppliers
to 
the automotive  industry.
    These panels were not stamped at DMCL.

These companies supply all of the leading automobile companies in the
common 
market. Companies like GM, Ford, Chrysler, Mercedes Benz, BMW, Lotus,
etc., 
etc.

DeLorean has a history of not telling the truth. There are 5-6 books
written 
about this.

Senator


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Message: 5
   Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 12:18:53 -0400
   From: Stephen Jarvis <jarvist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Blower Motor Reversal

Thanks to all who sent ideas and options to me on the AC/heater blower
motor
that ran backwards. I elected to try the rework of the blower as described
by Dan (many thanks!!) and it worked.

The rotation of the motor 180 degrees to the base reverses the direction.
It does take a bit of resourcefulness to remount the positive lug so the
plate metal plates mount flush again (the lug originally sits in a stamped
depression and that must be accounted for), but the unit works great now.
I
also had to add a small extension wire with a male and female spade
connector to hook up to the positive lug since it is now further away from
its original position.

All this just in time for central South Carolina's famous summers.

Again, my thanks to the list members.

Steve
#3542



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Message: 6
   Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 12:53:55 -0500
   From: "J Rowe" <rowejj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Consumable Parts

        Hello All,
                   I have been a Delorean owner for all of 4 days now.
It's an '81(OCT. 19881), grey interior 5-speed in case anyone is
interested. I was wondering if anyone had a list or knows of where
a list can be obtained for consumable parts ie: brake pads, oil and
air filters stuff like that that may be the same as other cars that parts
are readily available for at such places like napa or auto zone. I have 
heard that an oil filter off of a volkswagon golf will work but I am
mainly
interested in brake pads right now. I have 3 oil filters and 2 air filters

that came with the car. Thanks in advance for any information.

                                    Jason............Indiana 


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Message: 7
   Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 14:54:35 -0000
   From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:  Manual Transmission Sensor?  What is this thing??

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, "MrCopies" <mike@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi Gang!
> 
> Tonight while removing the manifold on the drivers side, I came 
across a
> hanging wire which looks like it's connected to a sensor (?) at the 
base of
> the manual transmission where it bolts to the engine.  This wire 
has been
> cut (for a long time by the looks of things).   It's on the drivers 
side of
> the transmission right near the catalytic converter (but again it 
goes
> directly into the transmission - at the pressure plate/flywheel).
> Any ideas what this is supposed to be for?
===============
Its the rpm/timing  sensor for the dealer diagnostic system that DMC 
never
invented. I've seen mechanics throw it away when doing the clutch.

No big deal

dave







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Message: 8
   Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 13:06:16 -0200
   From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Historic Blunders

 
--
I guess I will add my 2 cents to this story- I have heard from a very
knowledgeable(sp?) DeLorean owner (at a huge collector car gathering at
Lowes Motor Speedway in Charlotte NC), that the body dies were in fact
dumped into the North Channel between N. Ireland and England. Supposedly
Margret Thatcher hated the DeLorean, and had this done. I personally think
IF the British government still had these dies and things, that they might
use them and try and recover some of the money they lost by backing
DeLorean. That is just my opinion- Louie Golden (DeLorean owner wanna-be)


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Message: 9
   Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 15:47:37 -0400
   From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Manual Transmission Sensor?  What is this thing??

Mike,
    Probably the backing light switch.
    Josh
    VIN 5102
    VIN 15964

MrCopies wrote:

> Hi Gang!
>
> Any ideas what this is supposed to be for?
>
> Thanks
> mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> VIN#17089



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Message: 10
   Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 11:05:01 -0800
   From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: left front fenders

I have to agree with James' statement about the low demand for left
fenders.
I sold 2 in December of '95, and don't recall a single inquiry since then.
As for there "only being 10 remaining" I have more than that (both new and
used) myself, so I know that statement is wrong.  Its harder to find an
early hood than a left fender.  Also, PNDC has had excellent luck locally
with a "Dent Wizard" paintless dent removal service on smaller dents.

-- 
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
McCleary, WA
  



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Message: 11
   Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 19:01:26 EDT
   From: BondAtomic@xxxxxxx
Subject: Desktop theme

Does anyone have a DeLorean desktop theme, or where I can get one? Thanks
a 
lot!

-John Feldman  


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Message: 12
   Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 12:40:44 -0400
   From: Stephen Jarvis <jarvist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 

I noticed my car is not in the VIN chronology in the FAQ. How do I get it
there???

Steve Jarvis
#3542



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Message: 13
   Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 21:21:01 -0500
   From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Ken's Facia Pix uploaded

The rest of the photos of Ken's Facia Paintfest2000 are now in the eGroups
Files section. See at.

http://www.egroups.com/files/dmcnews/KensFaciaPaint/

Lot of good pix of Ken and his shadow.

Dave Swingle



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