Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 13 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Manual Transmission Sensor? What is this thing?? From: "MrCopies" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: awesome delorean for sale on ebay From: "Richard Petrie" <juffo7@xxxxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: fender reproduction From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx 4. Re: Re: Historic Blunders From: senatorpack@xxxxxx 5. Blower Motor Reversal From: Stephen Jarvis <jarvist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 6. Consumable Parts From: "J Rowe" <rowejj@xxxxxxxxxxx> 7. Re: Manual Transmission Sensor? What is this thing?? From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 8. Re: Re: Historic Blunders From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 9. Re: Manual Transmission Sensor? What is this thing?? From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@xxxxxxx> 10. RE: left front fenders From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 11. Desktop theme From: BondAtomic@xxxxxxx 12. From: Stephen Jarvis <jarvist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 13. Ken's Facia Pix uploaded From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 01:10:14 -0500 From: "MrCopies" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Manual Transmission Sensor? What is this thing?? Hi Gang! Before I asked the list I checked both the archives and scoured the parts and service books....maybe I'm just missing something. If this seems like a stupid question - I apologize in advance. I've been restoring my frame in the last month and since the engine and transmission are out of the car I decided to do the exhaust manifold gaskets (GREAT kit from PJ Grady). Tonight while removing the manifold on the drivers side, I came across a hanging wire which looks like it's connected to a sensor (?) at the base of the manual transmission where it bolts to the engine. This wire has been cut (for a long time by the looks of things). It's on the drivers side of the transmission right near the catalytic converter (but again it goes directly into the transmission - at the pressure plate/flywheel). Any ideas what this is supposed to be for? Thanks mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx VIN#17089 www.mydelorean.com "it's a sports car - of course it breaks down.... how else are you supposed to bond with it?" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 05:00:23 CDT From: "Richard Petrie" <juffo7@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: awesome delorean for sale on ebay Absolutely BEAUTIFUL! I wonder why though the tach is buried in the red.. is this a hard fix? With only 400+ miles on it I wonder why this would be! Otherwise, THIS is so very tempting!!!! Cheers, Richard You Wrote: > >81 delorean >only 400+ miles!!!!!!! >one owner > >I would love to buy this car, but im not in a position >to do so after my getting #10854. > >I would like to see this car go to a good home and a >good garage :) > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 07:12:50 EDT From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: fender reproduction I have looked into the cost of making a die to reproduce the fender. It was kind of a what if type project and my job is to make dies. I make steel residential door dies and we stamp the emboss into them so I have some experience with them. A hard production tool will run well into the $100,000 ++++ range depending on qualith and where it is built. A soft tool can be made for much less and is good for about 100 hits then its trash. Either way the cost per part will be far above what anyone would want to pay at this point and as James says the demand is not there because you still can find them. This may change once they cannot be found. If anyone wants to make a tool I have the presses to run it. Ken ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 10:09:05 EDT From: senatorpack@xxxxxx Subject: Re: Re: Historic Blunders The British Gov't did not confiscate the dies for the stainless steel panels. They were sold to a Salmon fisherman as scrap metal by the Thyssen GmbH & Co to recoup on the tremendous losses in encountered with DeLorean. JZD went around on the talkshow circuit after his cocaine trial and said that the British ruined the dies and threw them into the middle of Galloway Bay. NOT TRUE. THE DIES WERE MADE BY THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES IN THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND AND GERMANY. THEY WERE THE PROPERTY OF THE COMPANIES NOT THE UK GOVERNMENT OR DELOREAN MOTOR CO. LTD. When DMC went bankrupt in February 1982 it had a very hard time paying for the parts and supplies DMC owed to various leading automobile suppliers like Vita Cortex Ltd. Vita Cortex made the seat cushions for the car. DMC could not pay because is used up a $25,000,000.00 line of credit it had with my company. JZD used up DMC's available credit from the 25 million, in order to increase production on the cars instead of paying the companies that DMC owed for the parts and supplies. Renault was the hardest hit. The companies wanted payment in some form or another, so it was not very happy to accept the losses from DMC. Many companies went bankrupt supplying parts for the DeLorean. These companies are still listed as creditors in the bankruptcy suit. Thyssen GmbH & Co received an offer from fisherman for the dies and accepted his offer. STAINLESS STEEL- BSC Stainless steel is in Sheffield England. BSC built a 250 million dollar plant in Europe to provide stainless steel for DeLorean and the rest of the market. BSC only made the steel, NOT THE PANELS FOR THE DMC. MOLDS FOR DMC BODY - The inner hood and the rear louvre molds, the front fenders molds and the dies for the assembly of the outer hood were made by THYSSEN MASCHINEBAU GmbH. This is a German Company. The fenders, outer hood, louvre, and inner hood parts were stamped/fabricated at THYSSEN MASCH. GmbH not at DMC. DMCL only assembled the hood assemblies at the factory. The Fenders and Louvres' came in huge crates via Germany and Ireland to Belfast. MOLDS FOR UPPER AND LOWER BODY PANELS were made by August Lapple GmbH & Co. They are located in the Republic of Ireland. August Lapple is a German company automobile tool and die company. It was started in 1919. Lapple contracted with car companies in 1968 to supply automotive plastics. This manufacturer made the VARI body molds. These molds are in the Columbus Ohio Warehouse. These molds were used in the body press building at DMCL. Dies for the inner and outer rear quarter panels were supplied by ALLEGIARE- WERKE GmbH. George Allegiare established his company in 1906. Allegiare became one of the most important German automobile suppliers to the automotive industry. These panels were not stamped at DMCL. These companies supply all of the leading automobile companies in the common market. Companies like GM, Ford, Chrysler, Mercedes Benz, BMW, Lotus, etc., etc. DeLorean has a history of not telling the truth. There are 5-6 books written about this. Senator ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 12:18:53 -0400 From: Stephen Jarvis <jarvist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Blower Motor Reversal Thanks to all who sent ideas and options to me on the AC/heater blower motor that ran backwards. I elected to try the rework of the blower as described by Dan (many thanks!!) and it worked. The rotation of the motor 180 degrees to the base reverses the direction. It does take a bit of resourcefulness to remount the positive lug so the plate metal plates mount flush again (the lug originally sits in a stamped depression and that must be accounted for), but the unit works great now. I also had to add a small extension wire with a male and female spade connector to hook up to the positive lug since it is now further away from its original position. All this just in time for central South Carolina's famous summers. Again, my thanks to the list members. Steve #3542 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 12:53:55 -0500 From: "J Rowe" <rowejj@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Consumable Parts Hello All, I have been a Delorean owner for all of 4 days now. It's an '81(OCT. 19881), grey interior 5-speed in case anyone is interested. I was wondering if anyone had a list or knows of where a list can be obtained for consumable parts ie: brake pads, oil and air filters stuff like that that may be the same as other cars that parts are readily available for at such places like napa or auto zone. I have heard that an oil filter off of a volkswagon golf will work but I am mainly interested in brake pads right now. I have 3 oil filters and 2 air filters that came with the car. Thanks in advance for any information. Jason............Indiana [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 14:54:35 -0000 From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Manual Transmission Sensor? What is this thing?? --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, "MrCopies" <mike@xxxx> wrote: > Hi Gang! > > Tonight while removing the manifold on the drivers side, I came across a > hanging wire which looks like it's connected to a sensor (?) at the base of > the manual transmission where it bolts to the engine. This wire has been > cut (for a long time by the looks of things). It's on the drivers side of > the transmission right near the catalytic converter (but again it goes > directly into the transmission - at the pressure plate/flywheel). > Any ideas what this is supposed to be for? =============== Its the rpm/timing sensor for the dealer diagnostic system that DMC never invented. I've seen mechanics throw it away when doing the clutch. No big deal dave ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 13:06:16 -0200 From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re: Historic Blunders -- I guess I will add my 2 cents to this story- I have heard from a very knowledgeable(sp?) DeLorean owner (at a huge collector car gathering at Lowes Motor Speedway in Charlotte NC), that the body dies were in fact dumped into the North Channel between N. Ireland and England. Supposedly Margret Thatcher hated the DeLorean, and had this done. I personally think IF the British government still had these dies and things, that they might use them and try and recover some of the money they lost by backing DeLorean. That is just my opinion- Louie Golden (DeLorean owner wanna-be) Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 15:47:37 -0400 From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Manual Transmission Sensor? What is this thing?? Mike, Probably the backing light switch. Josh VIN 5102 VIN 15964 MrCopies wrote: > Hi Gang! > > Any ideas what this is supposed to be for? > > Thanks > mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx > VIN#17089 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 11:05:01 -0800 From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: left front fenders I have to agree with James' statement about the low demand for left fenders. I sold 2 in December of '95, and don't recall a single inquiry since then. As for there "only being 10 remaining" I have more than that (both new and used) myself, so I know that statement is wrong. Its harder to find an early hood than a left fender. Also, PNDC has had excellent luck locally with a "Dent Wizard" paintless dent removal service on smaller dents. -- Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive McCleary, WA ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 19:01:26 EDT From: BondAtomic@xxxxxxx Subject: Desktop theme Does anyone have a DeLorean desktop theme, or where I can get one? Thanks a lot! -John Feldman ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 12:40:44 -0400 From: Stephen Jarvis <jarvist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: I noticed my car is not in the VIN chronology in the FAQ. How do I get it there??? Steve Jarvis #3542 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 21:21:01 -0500 From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Ken's Facia Pix uploaded The rest of the photos of Ken's Facia Paintfest2000 are now in the eGroups Files section. See at. http://www.egroups.com/files/dmcnews/KensFaciaPaint/ Lot of good pix of Ken and his shadow. Dave Swingle ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________
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