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Title: [DML] Digest Number 703

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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. RE: Does anyone remember the name?
           From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      2. Re: Re: New England area D repairs
           From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      3. Re: Mike DeLuca, Please contact me
           From: turbodmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
      4. SEDOC cruise-in
           From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
      5. Mid Atlantic Events
           From: Dmc3360@xxxxxxx
      6. overheating
           From: Soma576@xxxxxxx
      7. DeLorean Fall Foliage Tour Info
           From: turbodmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
      8. Kayo Ong (ANY NYC DMC owners), Please contact me
           From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
      9. Subj: Re: Kayo Ong (ANY NYC DMC owners), Please contact me
           From: kayoong@xxxxxxx
     10. Re: Kayo Ong (ANY NYC DMC owners), Please contact me
           From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
     11. Stainless Steel Illusion
           From: Les Huckins <jhuckins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     12. RE: Does anyone remember the name?
           From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
     13. SEDOC Meet
           From: reuterconsulting@xxxxxxxxx
     14. RE: overheating
           From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     15. Re: hood adjustment
           From: "William F. Lane" <blane@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
     16. Re: overheating
           From: Soma576@xxxxxxx
     17. Re: Subj: Re: Kayo Ong (ANY NYC DMC owners), Please contact me
           From: Roland Barmettler <roli@xxxxxxxxxxx>
     18. Re: Kayo Ong (ANY NYC DMC owners), Please contact me
           From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:19:57 -0400
   From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Does anyone remember the name?

Their web site reads:

"Grundy Worldwide's underwriters can insure almost any collector vehicle
you own regardless of year or model. Collector vehicles must be used for
show, hobby, and pleasure purposes only. They should be owned in
addition to vehicles used for daily transportation for all operators in
your household, and can be in excellent original or restored condition."

Show, Hobby, and pleasure purposes only would exclude to work or the
mall.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Abato [mailto:delorean@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:31 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [DML] Does anyone remember the name?


www.grundy.com

Cant be used as a daily driver
must be kept in a garage
must be over 25 to drive
I pay them $260 a year for full coverage for $17k (appriased value of my
car)




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Message: 2
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:05:45 -0400
   From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: New England area D repairs


Speak to Phil at Lumbar Street Auto in Hopkinton.  They've worked on my
Delorean, as well as "several others" in the area.  508-435-4046.  They also
did major repairs on my car for it's previous owner, who lived very close to
the shop.  They are a reasonable, clean and well operated shop.

-Hank  #1619





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Message: 3
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:08:06 -0000
   From: turbodmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Mike DeLuca, Please contact me

Hi Aaron,

The Fall Foliage Tour is on! Oct. 27th and 28th on Long Island!
If you or any one else needs to reach regarding the tour feel free to
call me.
here is my email 
Turbodmc@xxxxxxxxxxx

For more info see the information on the DeLorean Mid Atlantic Events
sight.

DeLorean Mid Atlantic Events
http://members.aol.com/dmc3360/dma.html

Regards,

Michael DeLuca




--- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Aaron C." <slider_ten@xxxx> wrote:
>   Mike Deluca,
>
>   This is Aaron, the young guy who worked for Rob Grady over the
summer who
> you met at Rob's party.  I"m interested in knowing more about
October's
> events.  You can e-mail me at Slider_ten@xxxx or IM me at SliderTen
> Thanks.
>
>
>   -Aaron C.
>
>  ________________________________________________________
>
>  Have you moved into the Net City yet?  Come see your new favorite
>  neighborhood!
>
>  Your Net City.Com
>
http://www.yournetcity.com




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Message: 4
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:45:59 -0400
   From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
Subject: SEDOC cruise-in

I am still going to this show, God willing, and unless some government
authoirty puts up road blocks.  I hope that this morning's happenings in
Manhattan along with the associated political environment are not going to
scare any of you from traveling to the SEDOC cruise-in.

Today I am finishing-up putting on new trailing arm bolts and fuel lines.
Tommorrow the D gets wheel alignment and then Thursday I should have new
poweder-coated rims arriving from PJ Grady.  Then the new Michelin Pilots
get mounted and balanced.  Then Friday I head to the show.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 5
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:44:17 EDT
   From: Dmc3360@xxxxxxx
Subject: Mid Atlantic Events

To Aaron and others in the area.  For more information on the DeLorean Fall
Foliage Tour, being organized by Mike DeLuca, as well as other events coming
up in the area for DeLoreans, check my events page below.  Hope this helps.

DeLorean Mid Atlantic Events
http://hometown.aol.com/dmc3360/dma.html

Gary Gore
Activities Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic


> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:04:52 -0400
>    From: "Aaron C." <slider_ten@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Mike DeLuca, Please contact me
>
>   Mike Deluca,
>
>   This is Aaron, the young guy who worked for Rob Grady over the summer who
> you met at Rob's party.  I"m interested in knowing more about October's
> events.  You can e-mail me at Slider_ten@xxxxxxxxxxx or IM me at SliderTen
> Thanks.
>
>
>  




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Message: 6
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:42:10 EDT
   From: Soma576@xxxxxxx
Subject: overheating

hey all,

last night i had an overheating problem -

about 30 blocks from my house i began to notice the odor of burning wires.  i
pulled over and checked my engine compartment. no problems.  i then checked
my electrical compartment - my fan fail jumper was melting and it was
super-hot.  i unplugged it thinking it could start a fire, then drove
straight home, knowing i was w/o fans.  once home, i let the car idle for
about 2 minutes while i inspected the rest of my compartment for overheating,
then i turned off the car and i immediately could hear the sound of coolant
boiling on my muffler. i looked back and there was a big plume of steam that
rose up and soon as i turned off the car.  i opened my engine bay and i could
see about 1/2 qt of coolant had spilled out of my reservoir overflow hose,
however there was also coolant on my driver's side engine compartment wall,
on my belts, and on both the waterpump and crankshaft pulleys.  i suspect
that coolant came out of the reservoir and some landed on my running belts,
and they sprayed coolant around.   i let the car cool then came back an hour
later to check it out, and i couldn't find any antifreeze leaks on my initial
inspection. 

things to note - my temp gauge is inoperative so i do not know how hot the
engine got.  my fans were wired by a previous owner to be constantly running
when the car is on.  i do not have fanzilla as a result of this.  i tested my
coolant last week and it was good to -40F so i know my coolant isn't old.  i
have not started the car yet because i need to make a new jumper and buy some
more antifreeze. 

any ideas on what happened to me, and is it possible i have incurred
permanant damage in those brief 30 blocks?  the air temp was about 55 degrees
outside and i had no indication of engine damage until i shut it off and saw
coolant boiling.

thanks for any insight,
Andy

Soma576@xxxxxxx
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 7
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:21:07 -0000
   From: turbodmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DeLorean Fall Foliage Tour Info

The second annual DeLorean Fall foliage tour has finally been
scheduled.
This should be the largest DeLorean event in the Northeast this fall!

This year it will be a two day event Saturday  & Sunday October 27th
and 28th.

On Saturday the event starts at PJ Gradys in West Sayville N.Y.
This is guaranteed to be interesting to all DeLorean Enthusiasts

We will then depart from PJ Gradys and Caravan out to the East End of
Long Island.
This will include a driving tour with stops along the way in the
Hamptons and finish at the end of Long Island at the Montauk Light
house and vicinity We will have dinner in Montauk and Caravan back to
the
Hotel in East Hampton for a late check in at East Hampton House.
We have a special hotel rate of $75 + tax but you must tell them you
are part of the DeLorean Fall Tour (631) 324-4300 Fax 631 329-3743
On the web http://www.duneresorts.com/ehhouse.html
Sunday the tour continues and we will take a short ferry ride to
Shelter Island that may include a road rally and then departs on a
different ferry to the North Fork of Long Island. We will have a late
lunch in Green Port and spend some time exploring the town. I am
trying to arrange a winery tour also.

This trip will take you through the Long Island you have heard about
but never seen.
With the help of the people From the DeLorean Mid Atlantic I hope to
add a few more events during this
Weekend, this will be an event you don't want to miss!

Please make your hotel reservations early so you get a room,
accommodations are limited.
The hotel takes credit cards but require a deposit up front (this is
standard for this part of the world).

If you think you may want to attend or need more information please
e-mail me privately at turbodmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Knowing approximately how many people are interested will make it
easier to plane this event.
If people from New England need ferry information to get to Long
Island I can provide that to you.
I will be posting more information as I finalize some of the details.

Regards,

Michael DeLuca







 







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Message: 8
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:01:00 EDT
   From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
Subject: Kayo Ong (ANY NYC DMC owners), Please contact me


    With regard to the attack on the United States, Has anyone heard from
Kayo Ong or any NYC DMC owners?

Kayo Ong, or any NYC DMC owners please contact me.

My prayers and thoughts are with you.

Sincerely,
Michael



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Message: 9
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:58:19 EDT
   From: kayoong@xxxxxxx
Subject: Subj: Re: Kayo Ong (ANY NYC DMC owners), Please contact me

Moderators: you can post this if it is not out of line.  Many DMC members has
been writing and calling me with their concerns.


Folks:

To easy your concerns, all my family members are okay. 

I am deeply sadden to say that I may have relatives, friends or students that
may have lost their lives in or around the two towers -- And those who may
have gotten caught helping the victims at the crisis.

I live one mile from the World Trade Center, in the Chinatown area and there
is lots of dust that made its way into my home.  Strange thing, we used to
train at a place just 600 yards from there at 310 Greenwich Street, the edge
of the World Trade Center.

I saw and witness this ugly event this morning.  I gotten 3/4 of a mile to
the area (closest as I can before I was turned away)......  The two towers
was burning with/and people jumping from the "opening" gapes of the towers. 
I can't believe that I saw this tragic act and the demise of the two towers
collapsing and reduced to nothing.  It was horrific!  It was just "yesterday"
when I saw the two towers being built back in the early and mid 1960s when I
was a teenager.

As I am writing this e-mail, one of my student called me, Cesar Martinez who
retired last year as a firemen, he lost his whole battalion when the towers
collapsed -- while they were there attending to the situation. Till now there
is no radio contact from any of them....... I am afraid to say there will be
more death and demise...... I am sad with a bad feeling......... My sympathy
and condolences to the them, their families and friends know or unknown.

IT IS A SAD A DAY IN NEW YORK CITY -- FOR THE REST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE....
AND THE WORLD!

Kayo
#5508
Lic 9D NY

PS We have students and friends that are in Washington DC's Pentagon and the
area.....awaiting for news about them too............


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Message: 10
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:26:54 EDT
   From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Kayo Ong (ANY NYC DMC owners), Please contact me


    It is a somber day here in Washington, DC.,

    The city of Washington, DC shut down immediately after the plane hit the
Pentagon.
    The air traffic, roadways, and train service was immediately ground to a
halt.
The roads were blocked, and traffic was only able to leave the city.
    The traffic and people made an exodus from downtown DC and the states of
Maryland and Virginia announced a State of Emergency.

Both of my former companies (Bank of America, Deutsche Bank) had offices in
the WTC. I am in shock as I was just there.

More updates to come,

Very Truly, Yours,
Michael Pack



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Message: 11
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:45:02 +0000
   From: Les Huckins <jhuckins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Stainless Steel Illusion

My Book Collector friend has graciously lowered the price of his copy
from $200 to $150.  He ungraciously says that any less than that and
he'd rather keep it.  No flaws, mint condition, includes shipping.




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Message: 12
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:16:10 -0400
   From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Does anyone remember the name?

true..."Show, Hobby, and pleasure purposes only would exclude to work or the
mall." but when i called them, I told them straight out that I wanted to
drive the car on weekends and nights, their response was "That falls under
hobbying...our main concern is that you do not use it as a daily driver or
commuting"

With that, and the fact that regular insurance would be obsurd, I choose
grudy.  $260 a year for full coverage doesn't suck nearly as much as
$1,600+!

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc A. Levy [mailto:malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:20 AM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [DML] Does anyone remember the name?


Their web site reads:

"Grundy Worldwide's underwriters can insure almost any collector vehicle
you own regardless of year or model. Collector vehicles must be used for
show, hobby, and pleasure purposes only. They should be owned in
addition to vehicles used for daily transportation for all operators in
your household, and can be in excellent original or restored condition."

Show, Hobby, and pleasure purposes only would exclude to work or the
mall.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Abato [mailto:delorean@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:31 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [DML] Does anyone remember the name?


www.grundy.com

Cant be used as a daily driver
must be kept in a garage
must be over 25 to drive
I pay them $260 a year for full coverage for $17k (appriased value of my
car)



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Message: 13
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:31:32 -0000
   From: reuterconsulting@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: SEDOC Meet

I was curious as to whether the SEDOC meeting will still be going on
after today's tragedies?  I have already seen here in Charlotte NC
some gas stations price gouging at $2.00/gallon.  I have heard that
some parts of the country it is as high as $5.00/gallon.  I am just
wondering if this is the best time to be traveling?

Thanks,

Roy Reuter 




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Message: 14
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:52:06 -0500
   From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: overheating

Andy - It is possible you did some damage to your engine.
Did your engine sound any different when you inspected the car?
When a car overheats to this extent, it is likely because the
waterpump failed or the thermostat failed closed.  Check your
oil for possible coolant contamination.  This would indicate a
warped head or blown head gasket.  You should also get ahold of
a coolant system pressure tester.  This will help you locate the
leak.  It won't tell you anything about the waterpump or the
thermostat.  You can check the thermostat by removing it and
dropping it into a pan of boiling water to see if it opens
when it gets hot.  About the only way to check the pump is to
determine if the belt is still tight and that the pulley is
still turning.  Remove the belt and try to spin the pulley.
If it moves freely, your pump is probably OK.

Good Luck

Mike 

-----Original Message-----
From: Soma576@xxxxxxx [mailto:Soma576@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:42 AM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DML] overheating


hey all,

last night i had an overheating problem -





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Message: 15
   Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:09:35 -0700
   From: "William F. Lane" <blane@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: hood adjustment

Walt,

I had to modify my hood latch considerably by elongating the adjustment slots.
If I remember correctly, I had to completely cut the top hole so that the latch
would drop down enough to adjust the hood correctly.

Bill Lane
#3635

Walter wrote:

> Scott,
> Yep, I have the gasket that is glued to the hood.  It was glued on too close
> to the outside edges, so I had to take it off and glue it back on where it
> belongs.
>
> I have the gaskets that are glued to the fenders also.  Both mine have
> shrunk noticeably with age but they otherwise are doing their job.
>
> None of the gaskets seem to be interferring with the hood closing.  The
> rubber-tipped posts at the corners of the windshield seem to be fine.  The
> hood doesn't close far enough for these posts to do any good.
>
> I think I am going to have to file out the adjustment holes in the latch
> mechanism to get more room for adjustment.
>
> Thanks,
> Walt    Tampa, FL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Have you adjusted the rubber tipped posts on the corners near the
> > windshield?
> > There is a gasket that is glued to the hood and there is a gasket that is
> > glued to the fender.  Do you have both of them?
>
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Message: 16
   Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 02:53:07 EDT
   From: Soma576@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: overheating

Mike and others:

today i made a new jumper out of 12 gauge wire and 20 amp fuses, then topped
off my coolant reservoir.  i started the car and drove it around for a bit
and it does not seem to operate any differently than before.  i got the
engine nice and warm and it's performance is unchanged.  i then brought the
car into my local shop to have the cooling system pressure-checked.  they
said it held pressure perfectly and the 'radiator cap' works fine also, so i
do not appear to have any cooling system leaks.  i just checked my engine oil
- i changed my oil two weeks ago and it seems to be of a normal tint and i do
not smell anything odd in it.  i know my thermostat is working because my
coolant lines to the radiator were hot last night when the overheating
happened.  also, when i replaced my alternator two weeks ago, i checked out
the water pump pulley.  i remember it turned easily, but it didn't spin like
a tire.  there was more resistance, however it was not difficult to move and
it didn't vary in ease of turning as you turned it like a bad bearing might
feel. 

how 'stiff' of a turn should the water pump be?  should it spin if you put
your hand on it and throw it like the wheel of fortune (like a tire)?  or
should it spin relatively easily as you turn it with your hand on it?  i will
have to check it out again tomorrow after the fact.

Thanks for the help so far -
Andy

In a message dated 9/11/01 11:12:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:


> Andy - It is possible you did some damage to your engine.
> Did your engine sound any different when you inspected the car?
> When a car overheats to this extent, it is likely because the
> waterpump failed or the thermostat failed closed.  Check your
> oil for possible coolant contamination.  This would indicate a
> warped head or blown head gasket.  You should also get ahold of
> a coolant system pressure tester.  This will help you locate the
> leak.  It won't tell you anything about the waterpump or the
> thermostat.  You can check the thermostat by removing it and
> dropping it into a pan of boiling water to see if it opens
> when it gets hot.  About the only way to check the pump is to
> determine if the belt is still tight and that the pulley is
> still turning.  Remove the belt and try to spin the pulley.
> If it moves freely, your pump is probably OK.
>
>



Soma576@xxxxxxx
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 17
   Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:20:17 +0200
   From: Roland Barmettler <roli@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Subj: Re: Kayo Ong (ANY NYC DMC owners), Please contact me

Hello fellow DMClers

I wish to express my sincere symphathies to all of you americans,
especially those living near the desaster areas.

Best wishes,
Roland

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Message: 18
   Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:02:10 -0000
   From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Kayo Ong (ANY NYC DMC owners), Please contact me

All is quiet here in Las Vegas. The only things moving in the sky
tonight are clouds, and the occasional satelite. Access to Hoover Dam
is currently restricted, as are the Stratosphere and Eiffel towers.
I've heard of a couple of civil defense trucks driving around town,
but no major worries here, or on the west coast for that matter.
Everything here is fine, and should be business as usuall by
tomorrow/today.

The increase in gas prices has been in the midwest. Some confirmed as
high as $7.00 a gallon. However, the news has reported that these
service stations that have gouged the prices did so unfairly, and
without any justified reason. Thus they will be fined by local
authorities for their actions. I was told this worry was due to a
petroleum pipeline in the Midwest getting shut off. No damage, just a
precautionary measure. Should be back on at any time now. Had some
lines here @ the pumps, with the highest price gouge being .10 cents.
Everything has since died down. As of right now, there are no
concerns about a fuel shortage anywhere in the nation.

I would also imagine that anyone here on the list that has recently
ordered parts from a vendor, and had them shipped via air cargo will
probably have delays recieving their packages. But I would imagine
the respective shipping companies that are handling the delivery
would be your best contact for a status update.

On a more personal note, does anyone know of a contact #, or a source
of some sort to find/contact survivors of the WTC disaster? The
reason I ask is a guy I work with is from NYC, and his mother worked
on the 72nd floor. Don't know which tower, but communications between
LV & NYC have been down. Needless to say he's been worried sick since
he can't get thru to contact any of his family in Queens.

While it's ultimatly up to you, and everything should be fine, I
would hold off on traveling for at least a couple of days. Most, if
not all local Govt. services will be up and running today. Commuting,
and running errands should be okay. But I'd hold off on any long
distance traveling right now unless it's absolutely nessisary. That
way you can stay in touch with your local news. It's doubtful
anything else will happen, but this way you can help keep the
highways clear for any emergency traffic that might be moving
equipment, medical supplies, etc... Especially on the East coast.

It is a sad day for both the USA, and the world. My sympathies go out
to everyone and their families that have been affected by this
horrible atrocity worldwide. I work for the local cable company, so
the office has televisions everywhere. Needless to say, I've been
constantly watching the events since yesterday morngin on a scale
from my local news, on up to the BBC feed piped in on the BBC America
channel. While things will never be exactly the way they were before
yesterday, they will eventually return to normal. If nothing else,
the past 20 hours I've seen what people can accomplish together when
out to the test. The flag may be flying at half-mast, but none the
less, it's still flying!

Everyone here has my best wishes. Hopefully everyone, and their
friends and family are ok. And last bu not least, your cars as
well! :)

-Robert
vin 6585




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