dmcnews-digest Thursday, January 15 1998 Volume 03 : Number 320
In this issue:
DML: RE: Lighted Key
Re: Re: DML: Flashlight
DML: Motor Makers in Ireland
DML: Fwd: Exhaust manifold questions
DML: DMC sold and misc. stuff for sale
Re: DML: Fwd: Exhaust manifold questions
DML: DMC books?
RE:DML: Un-Storage Questions
DML: Door lock mechanism problem
Re: DML: Fwd: Exhaust manifold questions
DML: Craig tape deck flex circuit update
DML: Squeaky Suspension
Re: DML: Door lock mechanism problem
DML: New Owner
Re: DML: DMC books?
Re: DML: Craig tape deck flex circuit update
Re: DML: Barrett Jackson Auction / headliners
DML: re: DML DeLorean Books
DML: DMC Service
DML: Transmission woes...
Re: DML: Craig tape deck flex circuit update
Re: DML: Craig tape deck flex circuit update
DML: Cincinnati Show Banner corrected
RE: DML: Craig tape deck flex circuit update
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 06:37:05 EST
From: CDI USAMPS <CDIUSAMPS@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Lighted Key
Reference battery for lighted keys, I have both the long and short lighted
keys. Initially I bought a VARTA V625U from a Porsche dealer for over
$5.00
or you can go to Wal-mart or Radio Shack and buy the Duracell PX625B (same
battery) for less than half the VARTA cost. Works great in both keys.
BILL
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:10:17 EST
From: TV R US <TVRUS@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: DML: Flashlight
Are there any Flashlight blanks still available.... mine was broken when I
bought the car.... does anyone have a simple daigram of the inner workings?
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 98 17:53:18 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Motor Makers in Ireland
I have a copy of the book "Motor Makers In Ireland" that does not have a
dust jacket, but is a special edition distributed at the Ulster Motor
Show in 1996 (foil stamped on cover). Normally this would seel for
$40-$50, but without the just jacket, I think $20 will do - anyone
interested. Email me.
James
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 06:32:32 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fwd: Exhaust manifold questions
This was sent to me, and I am forwarding it to the list, can someone help
this guy?
James
- ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
Date: 01/09 3:23 PM
Received: 01/09 3:29 PM
From: Ron Pohala, rpohala@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: espey@xxxxxxxxxxx
I have a Delorean that has blown a head gasket and may need new heads and
exhaust manifolds. Can you direct me to the area that could answer the
question as to whether the exhaust manifolds are stock that comes with the
Volvo engine or have been modifed for the Delorean. Thanks for your help.
Also I would like to update the Delorean so I could use it on a regualar
basis What steps should I take. Thanks for your time.
Sincerely,
Ron Pohala Owner from Mt Top Penna.
- ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:11:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Starman <starman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DMC sold and misc. stuff for sale
Hi all,
Well, I finally sold the car. It wasn't easy but I had to let it
go. I have the following things that I'd like to get rid of since I have
no use for them anymore:
Oil Filter
Headlight
DOA Tech Manual (small)
PJ Grady Tech Manual (huge)
If interested in any of them, please let me know. It was fun having the
car and thanks to everyone who gave help and support while I had it.
Mike
ex-VIN #10213
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:45:44 -0800
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Fwd: Exhaust manifold questions
At 06:32 AM 1/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I have a Delorean that has blown a head gasket and may need new heads and
>exhaust manifolds. Can you direct me to the area that could answer the
>question as to whether the exhaust manifolds are stock that comes with the
>Volvo engine or have been modifed for the Delorean. Thanks for your help.
>Also I would like to update the Delorean so I could use it on a regualar
>basis What steps should I take. Thanks for your time.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ron Pohala Owner from Mt Top Penna.
reply:
Yes I can answer that question!
I recently replaced both head and exhaust gaskets on my 81 DMC.
I used standard Volvo gaskets, which were the same as far as required
holes
and alignment. My repair shop did the work saving the old gaskets for me
to
see. I was told that the exhaust gaskets can fail in engines that sit for
long periods which was the case with my DMC. I also used the same standard
Volvo gaskets for the water pump and the pan.
YOU SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEMS USING VOLVO PARTS AND GASKETS.
Lee
VIN#5729
lic: 81DMC-12
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:45:26 -0600
From: Allan Nelson <abnelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DMC books?
Hello, all!
I'm new to the list and subscribed out of pure fascination for the car
and the company. Also, I wanted to review the comments from owners of
the cars and see what I could expect if I purchase one. Anyway, to the
point...I was wondering if there is any pictoral history books out there
about the DMC-12. Bookstores have yielded nothing. I'd appreciate any
help here. Thanks!
- --Allan
(no VIN....YET, that is!)
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Date: 12 Jan 1998 10:39:41 -0600
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <Nick.Kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE:DML: Un-Storage Questions
Regarding taking a car out of storage ... here are some thoughts
1) One of the suggestions for taking a boat out of storage is to squirt
engine fogging oil into the cyliners before starting. This provides oil
to
the cylinders prior to getting the normal engine oil circulating. When
the
engine starts there will be quite a cloud of smoke.
2) Pull the fuel pump and boot from the tank and check to see if the boot
is
turning to tar. If it is you'll know as soon as you touch the boot
exposed
to the inside of the tank. Replace and clean as required.
3) Drain the old gas. Don't be tempted to use it for any other engine,
it
won't run well. You can use it as a solvent, especially if you have
problems with #2.
4) I would put a container of Chevron injector cleaner in the tank at
substantially higher than normal concentration(eg. one container to 2 or
3
gallons). Then, using a jumper, force the fuel pump on and circulate the
fluid. wait a day or so and do it again. When running the pump, make
sure
you can hear the fuel returning to the tank. After you do this a couple
times, replace the filter.
5) I prefer having a quick way of disconnecting the battery in case of
problems(eg. sticking starter(had this with a boat once), fire etc.).
There
is too much voltage drop by setting the battery outside the car and
connecting with jumper cables. The best way is to have the correct size
wrench ready and the battery accessable.
6) Altough probably not a high probability with this car, having a fire
extigisher handy and the engine covers up is always a wise precaution.
These are my suggestions. There may be more or better. You be the judge.
NK
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:18:08 EST
From: NJP548 <NJP548@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Door lock mechanism problem
Hey all,
I sorta have a problem with my passenger door... it only worked for
me
twice since I've bought it last monday. The door has 2 locks that lock
the
door one in the front and one in the back, the problem is that the lock
in the
back locks and unlocks fine, the front lock will not move, how would I be
able
to open the door and unstick the lock?? Any help would be
appriaciated(can't
spell)
later,
Nick
VIN#1852
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:03:41 -0500
From: "Richard Strecker" <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Fwd: Exhaust manifold questions
Along the same line.... does any one know if there are any high
compression
head gaskets available for the D? Way back there were such things
available
for Chevy etc. they were just thinner than stack & would reaise the
compression a little. Between that & planing the heads you could get a
little more HP.
Richard
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:02:06 -0500
From: Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Craig tape deck flex circuit update
Well, I finally got some information back from the
company I have looking into making a reproduction
flex circuit for the Craig tape decks. Bottom line
is that this part is not going to be cheap. The
best estimate I have for non-recoverable
engineering (designing the replacement) and
manufacturing setup costs is between $6000 and
$8000. This would result in a run of around 100
pieces. This means that just the part will be between
$60 and $80, not including shipping, installation,
warranty, etc. Given that 'new' replacements decks
are running around $250, is there still interest in
having this part made? If so, are you willing to
prepay?
Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
voice: (507)253-1853
fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:23:37 -0800
From: Wilson_Leong@xxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Squeaky Suspension
Hi, everyone,
Since buying my car in October, I have been driving it at least once every
week or two. During late November and early December, due to business
travel, I did not drive the car for about 4 weeks. When I took it out for
a spin I noticed the right, front suspension had a squeak. It seems to be
coming from the area of the lower suspension bushing, on the frame end.
Has anyone else out there experienced a squeaky suspension? Is there a
cure for this, other than disassembly and a rebuild?
Is there a lubrication/maintenance procedure? I'm hoping it's something
as
minor as doing a lube job. I am still looking for someone who has a
maintenance manual for sale at a reasonable price. Also, does it help to
jack up the car when I leave it dormant for a few weeks?
Any information would be appreciated.
Wilson
#2609
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 16:48:58 PST
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Door lock mechanism problem
> Hey all,
>
> I sorta have a problem with my passenger door... it only worked for me
> twice since I've bought it last monday. The door has 2 locks that lock the
> door one in the front and one in the back, the problem is that the lock in
the
> back locks and unlocks fine, the front lock will not move, how would I be
able
> to open the door and unstick the lock?? Any help would be appriaciated(can't
spell)
This is something that I could probably do faster myself then trying to
explain
how to do it. First, make sure we both understand what the other is
talking
about. The doors have 2 "LATCHES". One at the front and one at the
back.
These "LATCHES" can either be in the OPEN or LATCHED possition. Each of
these "LATCHES" can also be "LOCKED or UNLocked ".
With me so far ? :-)
OK, probably what has happened is the connecting rods have gotten out of
adjustment
or the latch handle is not returning to the fully down possition and cause
the latch to
jam. You first will have to remove the door panels, The top one first
"PULL HARD"
and then the bottom will come off with a few screws and fir-tree
connectors. disconnect
the connecting rod from the belcrank assembly from the front latch, Its
the
one that has the
cable attached that runs from the outside door handle, not the one that
connects
to the lock motor. Slightly push the rod toward the latch assembly.
Then, move
the lock button into the "unlock" position (forward). Then, pull the 2
rods and this
should open the door. If not, then you may have either a bad latch or the
lock
adjustment may be wrong. I don't know if this helped of just confused
you even more.
Like I said, its easier to do than try to tell someone how to do it.
If this works, then just
leave the door open and have someone help you find the problem by
operating
the
latch clamps by hand while you sit and make adustments. Tie a heavy
weight to the
door to keep it at a good height so you can work on it.
- -Brandon
bsmoody@xxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:33:10 -0500
From: John Murray <jwmurray@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: New Owner
Hi List,
After searching for aprox 6 months and viewing 30-35 different
DeLorean's I have purchased VIN#2390 1981 black int., 5spd!! The
passenger window dosent move, doors only lock from passenger side with
the key, relays need changing, and a SS header bottle too. Speedo angle
drive and some A/C work needs to be done. The body is almost perfect and
the int looks great for the 69K miles its got on it. Of interest to some
my purchase price was $9,500. The car was serviced since new by PJ Grady
and last service was at 61K miles and all service records came with the
car. It runs great, but does leak some coolant, which I think will be
fixed with the SS header bottle and upper coolant hose kit. I live
aprox. 10 minutes from The Jag Shop, in Pompano Beach, FL which has been
advertised in the last few issues of DeLorean World in the DMC Houston
advertisement. This makes DeLorean ownership easier knowing that David
Wynne can perform all DeLorean repairs. Anyway, anyone located in South
Florida that owns a DeLorean email me and we can go for a cruise. I am
glad this mailing list is available and is one of the biggest reasons I
did purchase the 'D' Much thanks to James Espey for providing this
forum, which is where I have learned everything about our beloved car in
the last few months! I will see you in Cincinnati in June!
John Murray
VIN# 2390 (I have waited too long to do that!)
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:09:55 -0800
From: Hank Breer <hbreer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DMC books?
Allan,
Check the DeLorean Owners Association Web Page and follow the links to
Products/Public Products.
We have both "THE DELOREAN BOOK 1977-1993" and the "DELOREAN GOLD
PORTFOLIO 1977-1995" (same book, updated) available. Orders can be made
by Phone, FAX, or on the Web on a secure server.
>...I was wondering if there is any pictoral history books out there
> about the DMC-12. Bookstores have yielded nothing. I'd appreciate
> any help here. Thanks!
>
> --Allan
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:24:05 EST
From: JSteuben <JSteuben@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Craig tape deck flex circuit update
Very much so...yes! It's one of the few things that don't work on my car
and
it drives me nuts. Any way to improve it so its stronger? The rest to
the
radio works fine so 60-80 bucks would not be out-of-line (in my opinion.)
Thanks, Joe
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:28:07 EST
From: DMETRI N Z <DMETRINZ@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Barrett Jackson Auction / headliners
I have an original, great condiion car available in the Phoenix area right
now. No auctions, no premiums. Just a good deal to the first reasonable
offer. Vin #4366 with less than 20,000 miles. for viewing call
602-248-0383
or email at demetri.pac.sunrise@xxxxxxxx
Demetri
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 10:14:03 -0500
From: "Rob Corkum" <rob.corkum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: re: DML DeLorean Books
Derek,
> I am looking for a copy of Stainless Steel Illusion, please e-mail if
> you have any leads, I have been waiting on Amazon.Com for a while.
I received an excellent copy in the mail last week for $17 + S&H from
an internet site selling automotive books. (It was the last one.) I
would suggest going through all the search engines and looking that
way for its title.
Good luck! It's quite a good book for information and photos.
//Rob//
vin 1723
DOA, DMCC
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:31:14 EST
From: Paraversal <Paraversal@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DMC Service
hi, I just had a few simple questions on sales and service.
1) Alright, we all know PJ Grady, DMC Houston, and DeLorean One. But
what are the main differences between them and their service?
2) Were any of these DeLorean service places origional DMC Dealers?
3) What's the deal with DeLorean One, I have never heard a good story
about
their customer service.
Just Curious,
Justin
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:21:43 -0800
From: Dave Price <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Transmission woes...
Hey all.. I was hoping someone could shed some light on a situation
here...
I had an auto shop take the fluid pan off my auto tranny, and the guy at
the shop said there was pieces of metal, metal bands, etc. floating around
in the pan. He said he doesn't work on transmissions, so he just put the
pan back on, and told me to have it towed to a transmission shop... I was
hoping someone out there might have an idea on what could have busted in
the transmission to leave metal fragments in the pan, and approximate
repair costs?
Thanks a bunch!
Dave
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:48:54 EST
From: EdwSinger <EdwSinger@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Craig tape deck flex circuit update
Joe:
My Craig only plays one track, not both. Is the board a fix for
me?
If so, I'm in. Edward Singer
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:32:57 EST
From: SoundKillr <SoundKillr@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Craig tape deck flex circuit update
The auto reverse is broken on your player. The flex circut only controlls
the
display. The auto reverse was broken on my tape deck as well. I was told
it
was the logic board and reverse motor and that no new replacement parts
available. The shop informed me I was on my own finding used parts so I
bailed
on that project. I did however individualy wire every one of the flex
board
wires. My display now works but the tape deck will not with this fix. As
mine
didnt work anyway...it didnt matter.
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 10:38:01 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Cincinnati Show Banner corrected
Turns out that I put the wrong dates in the Cincinnati Show banner that I
created - the file has been corrected and uploaded to the server, so if
you added the HTML to your page that I posted, your graphic is now right,
but the ALT text needs to have the dates changed from "13-15" to "12-14".
If you "lifted" the graphic from the DMC-News website, you should go abck
and "lift" it again since I have corrected the dates on it.
I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and thank all of those who
pointed out the mistake. Thanks also to Ken Koncelik, show organizer, for
not killing me. :)
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 7:38:28 -0600
From: Don Gowler-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DML: Craig tape deck flex circuit update
SoundKiller wrote:
>>I did however individually wire every one of the flex board wires.
How did you do this?
>
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