RE: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH Reproduction headlight switch

["Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I wonder if it would have been better to re-design a new rotory style 
switch, with better
contacts instead of the faulty push-button style.
And, if the little craphic in the center is an issue I could easily make 
some laminated decals
to replace that one that would look really good and only cost a few bucks.
Anyone interested in these?
I will make them.
- VB

>From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH Reproduction headlight switch
>Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:51:06 -0000
>
>The switch isn't a easy peice to reproduce, it looks like. There are 6
>or so pieces which need to be cast, just for the plastic. Then you've
>print the icon on the front. Next you've got to stamp the metal pieces
>for the copper contacts, source a spring, and install a light bulb.
>And THEN assemble the whole thing! It's tiny, but a bit more
>complicated than you'd think a headlight switch should have to be.
>
>But then again, the DeLorean is the only car that I've ever seen with
>a 2 position, push button switch for the head lights. Every other
>vehicle has used either a pull knob with a built-in rheostat, or a
>twist switch. But DMCH can't redesign the switch over to these. I
>don't know if liability is so much of a factor, as is the fact that
>everyone would bitch that it's not original, and hence would then
>avoid buying one on purpose.
>
>-Robert
>
>
>
>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxx> wrote:
> > I didn't know they needed to make 1000 of them as a minimum.
> > I thought it was something like, 50 or a 100.
> > I don't know how much they are going to cost to make, but at 250
>they will
> > be
> > taking in $10,000 which they are holding and presumably earning
>interest on.
> > I could be worng, but maybe this fee is paying for the production
>and the
> > other
> > 750 are gravy? At retail these 750 would then all sell for another
>$50,000
> > or so.
> > Altogether it is a $60,000 deal at gross.
> >
> > Hey, I am glad they are doing it and it is a smart way of doing it,
>they win
> > win.
> >
> > - VB
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx>
> > >Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH Reproduction headlight switch
> > >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:41:19 -0000
> > >
> > >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxx>
>wrote:
> > > > What was the minimum of switches they needed to make in order to
> > >make them?
> > > > - VB
> > >
> > >The minimum order acccording to their website, is 1,000 switches. And
> > >since they're asking for 250 pre-orders, that means that DMCH is
> > >already ordering 750 of them on their own.
> > >
> > >The headlight switch is a wearable part, both internally, and
> > >externally. Aside from wearing out on the inside, it also can wear out
> > >the graphic on the outside, if someone kept pushing on the center of
> > >the button with their finger. And if you've ever seens a car that's
> > >had the icon worn and scraped away, you know how nasty it looks.
> > >
> > >Headlights themselves have absolutely nothing at all to do with the
> > >headlamp switch. All it does, is feed power to two relays, which in
> > >turn actually carry the load to the low, and high beams. However, the
> > >headlight switch does carry the load for 10 external lights, and
> > >anwhere from 6 to 11 internal lights. Let me break it down.
> > >
> > >External:
> > >4x Side Indicators
> > >2x Front Markers
> > >2x Rear Markers
> > >2x License Plate Lights
> > >
> > >Internal
> > >5x Binnacle Lights
> > >1x Cigarette Lighter
> > >1x Shifter Indicator (if Automatic)
> > >4x A/C Panel Lights (if dimmer bypass jumper installed)
> > >
> > >Now that's a helluva lot of lights to try and power, just thru one
> > >small switch. And you still have to remember that you've also got
> > >several relays that are feed thru the switch as well. But, the switch
> > >can do it, as many other cars out there do, as this is a common design
> > >(so don't blame DMC!) But as soon as you get the slightest of shorts,
> > >it will kill the switch.
> > >
> > >Now the circuits here are fused, but only for the individual circuits,
> > >and not for all of them together as a whole, to try and protect the
> > >headlight switch itself (once again, a common design). Fusing the
> > >switch isn't nessisarry, and could really be a hastle if some how, the
> > >fuse did blow. Installing a relay is the key to protecting the switch,
> > >by isolating the individual circuits, and letting the fuses continue
> > >to do their job.
> > >
> > >Otherwise, if you don't wish to modify the car, keep your sockets and
> > >electrical connections clean, and switch over the lights to LEDs when
> > >possible. You could safely swap the license plate lamps on the
> > >outside, and ALL of the internal lamps on the inside. This alone would
> > >greatly reduce the load on both the switch, and the wiring.
> > >
> > >-Robert
> > >
> > >
>
>

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