Re: [DMCForum] Discrimination: Actually DeLorean related.
    
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Re: [DMCForum] Discrimination: Actually DeLorean related.
- From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx>
 
- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:15:33 -0600
 
I will have to believe John Hervey over this whole story because i have 
been on Gary's BTTF forum and i seen how you have taken others ideas 
and sold them as your own, thats why you got banned twice from that 
forum and the final time was for good. I know you came out with the 
side stripes for sale before John Hervey, John Hervey only did to you 
what you did to others on Gary's BTTF forum.
Personally i dont know the whole story and it is none of my business, i 
just know from all of your doings on the DML and Gary's BTTF forum you 
had this coming for a while now.
Mark V
On Tuesday, January 11, 2005, at 01:53  AM, John Hervey wrote:
>
> Bob, I won't pleasure you in a answer over the forum, but I will say 
> this.
> It would kill you to tell the truth.
> John Hervey
> P.S. Did see a post on the DML that you said there were 12 cars at the
> gathering. There were 7.
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Videobob Moseley [mailto:videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>   Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:09 PM
>   To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Discrimination: Actually DeLorean related.
>
>
>   Please explain your question to me again, because I am not sure I
>   understand.
>   Are you saying that there are vendors who will refuse service to you 
> based
>   on their
>   religious or personal beliefs?
>
>   I know John Hervey has told me that he doesn't want to sell me parts
> because
>   of
>   a dissagreement we had, whcih is stupid because I spent many 
> thousands of
>   dollars
>   with the man.
>   I paid him over $400 to do a "tune up" on my car, when I picked it 
> up I
> was
>   missing
>   my set of unused black stripes that was in the car, he told me that 
> he
>   borrowed them
>   to "show them to a friend", about a month after I released the sale 
> of my
>   stripes
>   he offered hiis versions (ripped off from me) at a cheaper rate.
>   I told him that was not a nice thing to do to a friend.
>   He replied, "It's only business Bob".
>   So I announced that any price that John sold his stripes for, I 
> would beat
>   it.
>   John got upset with me and I replied: "It's only business John".
>   He got miffed and told me not to buy from him any more.
>   His loss.
>   I was a loyal customer, and a good friend.
>   We shared the cost of a hotel room at Pigeon Forge, and shared 
> booths, I
>   helped him
>   load his stuff and watched his table and even helped him sell when 
> ever I
>   could.
>   He has been to my house and we have had dinner together many times.
>   His actions were uncalled for and for no reason other than greed.
>   It's just dumb, because I spent a lot of money with him and brought 
> him
>   customers
>   and now he has ruined this relationship over nothing, because as far 
> as I
>   know he hasn't
>   sold any of his srtipes to anyone.
>   However I have sold quite a few.
>   I have offered to forgive him and forget about it.
>   I have not heard back from him about it.
>   Shame or pride, it is a fault.
>
>   I have no problem selling to anyone.
>   Even if they don't like me, not so much for the money, but 
> maybe....just
>   maybe
>   if I provide them with good service and a good product they might see
>   another side
>   of me and change their minds.
>   Hey, I'm a nice enough guy and I think my prices are resonable in
>   consideration
>   of retail practices.
>   Sure I mark things up for a profit but that's how it works in all
> business.
>
>   So I will sell to anyone who needs help, and I will always answer the
> phone
>   and be a friend to anyone who asks.
>   I don't hold grudges like some people do.
>
>   Does this address the issue you were asking?
>
>   I think the most documented cases of DeLorean Parts Discrimination 
> would
> be
>   with D1.
>   I have heard about this from others too.
>   Rob Grady and Don Stegar have both been accused of this in the past.
>   Rob told me that "unless I buy all of my parts from him, he would 
> not sell
>   me parts
>   and peices individually" although I have bought some of his 
> accesories off
>   his website.
>   This costed him many thousands of dollars as I relied on DMCH and 
> they
> came
>   through big time.
>   Stephen did a great job of stealing my business away from others.
>   Stephen has taken the time to call me and address problems I am 
> having and
>   offer solutions.
>   No other vendor has ever done that....shit, half the time you can't 
> get
>   another vendor
>   on the phone!
>
>   So I hope this answers some questions for you.
>   - VB
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