Re: [DMCForum] Re: Andrew's Idle
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Re: [DMCForum] Re: Andrew's Idle



On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, content22207 wrote:

> You may have a significant vacuum leak. Classic symptom is very
> inconsistent idle.

Yeah, I was thinking this after looking a bit at the DML archives.  It's
certainly possible.  As I indicated in an earlier message, I already knew
I'd knocked off one vacuum hose while working on the distributor.  Turned
out it was the manifold tap, and I got it back on.  Doesn't mean there's
not another leak somewhere else.

I've got one of Hervey's nice silicone vacuum hose kits which I have yet 
to install.  I was planning to get it on there after doing the ignition 
upgrade kit, but what better time to rule out vacuum leaks than now?  I'll

probably get on it when I have some more daylight.  (I really should 
invest in some decent lighting for my garage.  I do all my best thinging 
at around 3:00 am.)

> metering device -- lean mixture -- then it will catch itself when
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^

> BTW: what did plugs look like when they came out? If they are totally
> clean or even discolored white you most likely do have a vacuum leak.

I actually was going to have my mechanic have a look at one.  I think they

look okay.  Very slight ash coloring.  No deposits or uneven wear.  I 
don't know if DMCH swapped the plugs over when putting in the new engine 
of if they provided new plugs, so they've either got 5000 or 1000 miles on

them.  Either way, not a whole lot.

> vacuum drops due to extremely low RPM's and rev back up. Is usually
> accompanied by much shuddering and sputtering.

That certainly describes what the engine is doing, but it also describes 
what the engine has done all along when cold.  The only difference now is 
that it doesn't smooth out once it's warm.

> Of course CIS adds whole new variable. Simply unplug idle speed motor at
> mid point of wander to see if problem is in automatic idle system or if
> engine continues to misbehave.

Okay.  I'll put this on my list of things to play with tomorrow.  I also 
need to make sure I didn't accidentally get the idle speed regulator 
disconnected from the ECU or something, since I was working in that area.

> Do you have a compression gauge? I'm very curious what cylinder 
> pressure of Houston's engine is. European spec PRV in my DeLo is 170
> PSI. I believe stock DeLorean is 155.

I don't, but I can promise you my mechanic does.  I'll get him to take a 
reading next time I'm down at his shop in the DMC.

-andrew


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