I agree Lee. Another problem is European farmers being subsidised to produce too much food which is then left to rot, which is utter madness. On another note, I can?t believe that idiot Bush wont sign up to Kyoto ? climate change is happening! I?ve noticed the difference in the last 25years. When I was at senior school 20-odd years ago (showing my age here) we had proper winters which lasted from November through to late February with over a foot of snow (and yes that is here, daan saaaf!), and the school only shut if the boiler packed up and the temperatures in class dropped to below 5C; not because there was a light dusting of ?icing sugar? on the pavements. I can remember spending all the winter holidays sledging with my mates at Fairlands Valley Park (complete with ?moon boots?!)?..ah, happy days ;o) Also, I can remember in 1990 keeping a large broom and shovel in the boot of my Ford Escort because I?d have to dig it out of the snow in the morning to go to work and then dig it out again in the evening. Just sending money to Africa as we know doesn?t really solve anything, as the governments are so corrupt it wont get where its needed. There was a really interesting discussion on R4 this afternoon about this, and what really helps is helping the African people to help themselves - to grow crops, irrigate the land, educate the children and provide better healthcare and drugs. AIDS in Africa is a real problem and the drug companies who can help are too worried about their precious profits and shareholders to pitch in and provide life saving medicines either free or cheaply. Like you say Lee, this is 2005???. I?ll get off my soapbox now. Claire #2292 DOC171 -----Original Message----- From: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lee.Tarbox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 01 July 2005 21:01 To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [doc] FW: make poverty history Subject: make poverty history Hi Folks Everyone is spouting on about G8 and Poverty so I don't blame anyone for deleting this if you wish Until today I didn't know anything about Fair trade laws and just turned over the channel to Hollyoaks like everyone else.... But if they are not changed the countries that are genuinely trying to develop themselves will fail ,BUSH and all the other head figures dump all the crap surplus food mountains onto them causing local trade to become out priced and un viable ..... This must stop ....for Christ's sake its 2005 ! Its Free.....and we may make a difference Register on the petition.....even its its just as a two fingers up at Bush It will cost you no more than two minutes of your time Many Thanks Lee - Doc 99 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] DOC UK Website: www.deloreans.co.uk Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group are assumed public and may be printed in the club magazine ** Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/doc-uk/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/