[doc] Re: Value of VIN 16118, ebay 928 mile? car NEED ADVICE

["colmnugent" <colm.nugent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with Rich, the price is way over the top for this car.  The 
mileage is (i) unlikey to be true (ii) if true, the car has sat for 
too long which casues all sorts of problems and (ii) this sort of 
mielage adds nothing to the value anyway.  
You can pick up an end-to-end refurbished car from DMCH for the sort 
of money he's talking about and it comes with a warranty and all 
upgraded parts - literally better than new. 

Colm. 
#5706 (DMCH built in March 2002)

--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Richard Hanlon" <rahanlon@xxxx> 
wrote:
> All good points so far.  Check for a shiny steering wheel and worn 
> pedal-rubbers.  Both are good general indicators of the amount of 
driving 
> she's had. As Phill says,  I gather the Lambda counter can be a 
good 
> tell-tale on mileage, but you'll need to be an acrobat to get a 
look at it!!
> 
> Good luck - and use your head, not your heart!
> 
> Rich H
> 
> >From: "Mike Bosworth" <mike.bosworth@xxxx>
> >Reply-To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [doc] Re: Value of VIN 16118, ebay 928 mile? car NEED 
ADVICE
> >Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:20:17 -0000
> >
> >Hi
> >
> >Since you are asking for advice, i would give you this, im sorry 
if
> >its not what you want to hear, the car you are looking at is not a
> >cheap one at $26k, its quite a lot of money for a D. Forgetting 
the
> >low mileage part of the equation , for $26k you can get a heck of 
a
> >lot of a good car thats been well maintained and 'updated', if 
this
> >milage is true , ( does it 'look like' its done less than 1000 
miles
> >ie origional tyres, seat covers etc, does the spedo work smoothly 
and
> >correctly?, it seems to have a few extras fitted for a car with so
> >little miles on it, sorry yes im a suspicious person ) you 
probably
> >have a lot of origional parts on the car that will wear out and
> >quickly and need replacing, eaxctly what has been done to 
maintain it
> >over the years and been replaced? dont buy a car on low miles 
alone,
> >it can have quite the opposite effect on reliabilty, cars like to
> >be 'used'.
> >
> >The frame is painted, this did happen on some 83's but i would 
really
> >check this out for signs of the dreaded frame rust.Are the control
> >arms etc in a 1000 mile condition. Where has this car been all of 
its
> >life?
> >
> >Just looking at cars for sale in the US at the mo there seems to 
be
> >quite a few cars out there in an A1 condition, that have had 
things
> >like Tab's and water pumps, fuel systems etc etc replaced, things 
you
> >need to be thinking about prior to the purchase of your car, these
> >items all add up and if they have not been addressed already will
> >need to be.
> >
> >There are a lot of knowledgable people on these DMC lists i would
> >urge you to take account of all advice before you purchase any 
car.
> >
> >Good Luck on your purchase
> >
> >Kind Regards
> >
> >Mike
> >#2001
> >
> >--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Packodenton@xxxx wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Gentleman:
> > >
> > > Here in Pittsburgh to purchase VIN 16118.
> > >
> > > Had to deal with three sales people so far, and I am pretty 
close
> >to a
> > > purchase price.
> > >
> > > The car is a low mile 1983, with 928 miles on the odometer. 
There
> >are a few
> > > questions I have;
> > >
> > > 1) The undercarriage is undercoated with tar. Some DeLoreans 
were
> >prepared
> > > at the docks in Belfast and the QAC's to hide the rust from 
the sea
> >air. Is
> > > this  a problem especially with the sensitivity of the DMC 
chassis?
> > >
> > > 2) the center arm rest area/window switch area has been 
modified to
> >include
> > > a toggle switch & warning light, I suspect for the cooling 
fans.
> >This part  is
> > > no longer available?
> > >
> > > 3) frame tow hooks are badly bent  from towing the car.
> > >
> > > 4) the cooling system hoses have a plastic tie wraps holding 
the
> >hoses
> > > together.
> > >
> > > 5) there is a small chuck missing from the lower passenger seat
> >cover. It  is
> > > noticeable
> > >
> > > 6) center steering pad has a DMC pin glued onto it.
> > >
> > > 7) the shifter plate for automatic has a thermostat hot glued 
to it
> >where
> > > the 1981 clocks are located.
> > >
> > > 8) The original coil cover for 1983's has been replaced with a
> >1981  version.
> > >
> > > My offer of $26,000 was considered as the dealer counter 
offered
> >to  $28,000.
> > > He wants more than $32,000 for the car. It does have a  cover,
> >extra oil, air
> > > & fuel filters, workshop manual, window stickers  etc.
> > >
> > > What is your advice?
> > >
> > > Sincerely Yours,
> > > Michael Pack
> > >
> > >
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> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]--- In 
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> >uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Packodenton@xxxx wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Gentleman:
> > >
> > > Here in Pittsburgh to purchase VIN 16118.
> > >
> > > Had to deal with three sales people so far, and I am pretty 
close
> >to a
> > > purchase price.
> > >
> > > The car is a low mile 1983, with 928 miles on the odometer. 
There
> >are a few
> > > questions I have;
> > >
> > > 1) The undercarriage is undercoated with tar. Some DeLoreans 
were
> >prepared
> > > at the docks in Belfast and the QAC's to hide the rust from 
the sea
> >air. Is
> > > this  a problem especially with the sensitivity of the DMC 
chassis?
> > >
> > > 2) the center arm rest area/window switch area has been 
modified to
> >include
> > > a toggle switch & warning light, I suspect for the cooling 
fans.
> >This part  is
> > > no longer available?
> > >
> > > 3) frame tow hooks are badly bent  from towing the car.
> > >
> > > 4) the cooling system hoses have a plastic tie wraps holding 
the
> >hoses
> > > together.
> > >
> > > 5) there is a small chuck missing from the lower passenger seat
> >cover. It  is
> > > noticeable
> > >
> > > 6) center steering pad has a DMC pin glued onto it.
> > >
> > > 7) the shifter plate for automatic has a thermostat hot glued 
to it
> >where
> > > the 1981 clocks are located.
> > >
> > > 8) The original coil cover for 1983's has been replaced with a
> >1981  version.
> > >
> > > My offer of $26,000 was considered as the dealer counter 
offered
> >to  $28,000.
> > > He wants more than $32,000 for the car. It does have a  cover,
> >extra oil, air
> > > & fuel filters, workshop manual, window stickers  etc.
> > >
> > > What is your advice?
> > >
> > > Sincerely Yours,
> > > Michael Pack
> > >
> > >
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