[doc] Re: Value of VIN 16118, ebay 928 mile? car NEED ADVICE

["Mike Bosworth" <mike.bosworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi

Since you are asking for advice, i would give you this, im sorry if 
its not what you want to hear, the car you are looking at is not a 
cheap one at $26k, its quite a lot of money for a D. Forgetting the 
low mileage part of the equation , for $26k you can get a heck of a 
lot of a good car thats been well maintained and 'updated', if this 
milage is true , ( does it 'look like' its done less than 1000 miles 
ie origional tyres, seat covers etc, does the spedo work smoothly and 
correctly?, it seems to have a few extras fitted for a car with so 
little miles on it, sorry yes im a suspicious person ) you probably 
have a lot of origional parts on the car that will wear out and 
quickly and need replacing, eaxctly what has been done to maintain it 
over the years and been replaced? dont buy a car on low miles alone, 
it can have quite the opposite effect on reliabilty, cars like to 
be 'used'.

The frame is painted, this did happen on some 83's but i would really 
check this out for signs of the dreaded frame rust.Are the control 
arms etc in a 1000 mile condition. Where has this car been all of its 
life?

Just looking at cars for sale in the US at the mo there seems to be 
quite a few cars out there in an A1 condition, that have had things 
like Tab's and water pumps, fuel systems etc etc replaced, things you 
need to be thinking about prior to the purchase of your car, these 
items all add up and if they have not been addressed already will 
need to be.

There are a lot of knowledgable people on these DMC lists i would 
urge you to take account of all advice before you purchase any car.

Good Luck on your purchase

Kind Regards

Mike
#2001

--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Packodenton@xxxx wrote:
> 
> Hello Gentleman:
>  
> Here in Pittsburgh to purchase VIN 16118.
>  
> Had to deal with three sales people so far, and I am pretty close 
to a  
> purchase price. 
>  
> The car is a low mile 1983, with 928 miles on the odometer. There 
are a few  
> questions I have;
>  
> 1) The undercarriage is undercoated with tar. Some DeLoreans were 
prepared  
> at the docks in Belfast and the QAC's to hide the rust from the sea 
air. Is 
> this  a problem especially with the sensitivity of the DMC chassis?
>  
> 2) the center arm rest area/window switch area has been modified to 
include  
> a toggle switch & warning light, I suspect for the cooling fans. 
This part  is 
> no longer available?
>  
> 3) frame tow hooks are badly bent  from towing the car.
>  
> 4) the cooling system hoses have a plastic tie wraps holding the 
hoses  
> together.
>  
> 5) there is a small chuck missing from the lower passenger seat 
cover. It  is 
> noticeable
>  
> 6) center steering pad has a DMC pin glued onto it.
>  
> 7) the shifter plate for automatic has a thermostat hot glued to it 
where  
> the 1981 clocks are located.
>  
> 8) The original coil cover for 1983's has been replaced with a 
1981  version.
>  
> My offer of $26,000 was considered as the dealer counter offered 
to  $28,000. 
> He wants more than $32,000 for the car. It does have a  cover, 
extra oil, air 
> & fuel filters, workshop manual, window stickers  etc.
>  
> What is your advice?
>  
> Sincerely Yours,
> Michael Pack
>  
>  
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]--- In doc-
uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Packodenton@xxxx wrote:
> 
> Hello Gentleman:
>  
> Here in Pittsburgh to purchase VIN 16118.
>  
> Had to deal with three sales people so far, and I am pretty close 
to a  
> purchase price. 
>  
> The car is a low mile 1983, with 928 miles on the odometer. There 
are a few  
> questions I have;
>  
> 1) The undercarriage is undercoated with tar. Some DeLoreans were 
prepared  
> at the docks in Belfast and the QAC's to hide the rust from the sea 
air. Is 
> this  a problem especially with the sensitivity of the DMC chassis?
>  
> 2) the center arm rest area/window switch area has been modified to 
include  
> a toggle switch & warning light, I suspect for the cooling fans. 
This part  is 
> no longer available?
>  
> 3) frame tow hooks are badly bent  from towing the car.
>  
> 4) the cooling system hoses have a plastic tie wraps holding the 
hoses  
> together.
>  
> 5) there is a small chuck missing from the lower passenger seat 
cover. It  is 
> noticeable
>  
> 6) center steering pad has a DMC pin glued onto it.
>  
> 7) the shifter plate for automatic has a thermostat hot glued to it 
where  
> the 1981 clocks are located.
>  
> 8) The original coil cover for 1983's has been replaced with a 
1981  version.
>  
> My offer of $26,000 was considered as the dealer counter offered 
to  $28,000. 
> He wants more than $32,000 for the car. It does have a  cover, 
extra oil, air 
> & fuel filters, workshop manual, window stickers  etc.
>  
> What is your advice?
>  
> Sincerely Yours,
> Michael Pack
>  
>  
> NOTE:   THIS DOCUMENT MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND NONPUBLIC 
INFORMATION.  IT 
> IS  INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL(S) OR ENTITY(IES) 
NAMED 
> ABOVE, AND  OTHERS SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVE IT.  If you 
are not the 
> intended  recipient of this document, you are notified that any 
review, 
> dissemination,  distribution or copying of this communication is 
prohibited.  If you have 
>  received this communication in error, please notify me immediately 
by return 
>  email, delete the electronic message and destroy any printed 
copies.  Thank  
> you for your cooperation.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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