Re: [doc] "new" new cars

[Darren Cunningham <darren.cunningham@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Mike,

I've never experienced a clicking sound from the accelerator on any of 
the 6 Minis I've driven - the only thing I think it could be is the back 
of the accelerator pedal hitting its mounting when you floor it, but 
that doesn't explain it on the way back up...

All Minis now do come with a rev counter as standard, and even when they 
didn't, it was part of a £100 pack which also included front fog lights, 
silver dash and lots of other bits and pieces - not exactly a huge 
expenditure.

Fair enough your E36 might get more looks than the Minis you've driven 
but it's a poor comparison - when I'm driving my Delorean or one of my 
other classic cars, they get more looks than the Mini and I'm guessing 
that they'd get more looks than an E36. :-)
The Mini does get more looks than most small cars eg clio, polo, fiesta 
etc. and my Mini in particular gets even more - black car w/ bodykit, 
black 18" wheels, black windows, driving lights on the grille, flames on 
the headlights and side vents...


I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one (with both of us 
knowing we're right :-) ) and get back to discussing Deloreans.

Darren


Mike Sumner wrote:

>Fair enough, you are after all entitled to your opinion.
> 
>However, having driven about 5 different Minis (including the new cabrio) I found all of them had an irritating fault which consisted of the accelrator making a harsh clicking sound when you pushed it to the floor, and the same when you let your foot off it.
> 
>I expect better from a car that starts at £10,500 and you don't even get a rev counter on the basic model.  Hardly impressive spec.
> 
>And as for the BMW after sales package, I know all about this as I drive an E36 Coupe which gets far more looks than the Minis I drove round in when it was being serviced.
> 
>Regards,
> 
>Mike Sumner - 178
>1999 BMW E36 Coupe
>
>
>Darren Cunningham <darren.cunningham@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Mike,
>
>I'm going to have to get involved here and defend the Mini as I drive 
>one everyday...
>
>There's been a lot of hype about them for a simple reason - they are 
>bloody good cars as long as you accept them for what they are - a small 
>stylish city car.
>
>All cars have to be considered on their own merits and everyone will 
>have a different opinion - my opinion is that the Mini is a great car 
>that's fun to drive on twisty backroads, is very comfortable on long 
>journeys, a brilliant car for driving in city centres and gets a lot of 
>admiring looks. I would say that if you regularly need to carry big 
>loads/lots of people then it's probably not the car for you as it 
>clearly wasn't designed for that. Having said that, I have had 2 
>basketball players in the back of mine both over 6'4" and they were 
>reasonably comfortable... and before you ask, yes I was able to sit in 
>the front and drive the car :-)
>
>You may consider that it's bad value but if you look at depreciation, 
>the Mini holds its value much better than most small cars - probably 
>because of all the "hairdressers and yuppies that drive them" (I'm a 
>mechanical engineering student btw). When I was thinking about changing 
>my car (for another Mini) last summer, I got a part-exchange value from 
>the dealer of £12,000 for it - a drop of only £2,000 over 2 years. 
>There's also a great backup service from BMW - Europe-wide recovery, 
>24hr BMW Emergency Assist as well as the TLC servicing package (5 yrs / 
>50k miles) for a hundred quid.
>
>I'm sure that there's a lot of people who consider the Delorean's crap 
>without having lived with one.....
>
>Darren
>1982 Delorean RHD
>2002 Mini One
>
>
>Mike Sumner wrote:
>
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>>I don't doubt there's a reason for it but having driven quite a lot of different cars I can't help but get involved when someone mentions a car that I consider to be crap.
>>
>>Obviously it's just my opinion but I think the new Mini is one of the most over-rated over-hyped cars in recent years.
>>
>>There are better cars than the new Mini at far more reasonable prices these days but try telling the hairdressers and yuppies that drive them.
>>Regards,
>>
>>Mike Sumner - 178
>>1999 BMW E36 Coupe
>>
>>
>>Lloyd Bonson <lloyd_bonson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>"The reason being that most of the cars length has gone on the bonnet, 
>>because the front's not much better and the boot is nothing more than a 
>>rear-mounted glove box."
>>
>>That'll be the need to comply with American crash protection regulations for 
>>you!!
>>
>> 
>>
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>>>From: Mike Sumner <mikebmw316@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Reply-To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: Re: [doc] "new" new cars
>>>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:09:22 +0100 (BST)
>>>
>>>Not trying to stir things up but having sat in the back of a BMW Mini (and 
>>>not being particularly tall) I have to say that you'd do well to seat 4 
>>>adults.  The rear leg room is an absolute joke.
>>>
>>>The reason being that most of the cars length has gone on the bonnet, 
>>>because the front's not much better and the boot is nothing more than a 
>>>rear-mounted glove box.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Mike Sumner - 178
>>>1999 BMW E36 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>Troy Knight <dmc.knight@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>BMW mini's are small practical and can seat 4 adults, the insurance I'm not 
>>>too sure about but I hear a Renault Cleo is pretty good to insure.
>>>
>>>Yur Pal
>>>Troy
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>>> From: Mike Green
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>>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 7:58 PM
>>> Subject: [doc] "new" new cars
>>>
>>>
>>> All this talk of rover shutting down, leaves me in consideration of
>>> what car to get next. I used to live a stones throw from the
>>> longbridge plant, and a lot of my school mates could well be out of
>>> work very soon!
>>>
>>> Currently I have a 5 year old hyundai accent which has served me well,
>>> but its time to change, and so I need a little bit of advice if
>>> possible from what seem to be a mostly clued up bunch of motor heads
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> so what do i go for guys (and gals) ? I need something that can take a
>>> fair whack of miles, up to 25k a year, be economical, safe and sturdy,
>>> no more than a 1.5l or less than a 1.3, low insurance group (my accent
>>> is group 4 and my premium is still an anal fisting), comfortably fit 4
>>> adults and most importantly be in the low end price bracket.. so
>>> around 8 or 9 k
>>>
>>> I would spend that towards a delorean if it was practical... but it
>>> just isnt, for quite a few of my ideal car checklist
>>>
>>> so what should i go for... or shall i just go and buy a brand new 
>>>accent?
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 427
>>> VINLESS
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