Re: [doc] OT - Buying cars in general

["colmnugent" <colm.nugent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The Telegrapgh motoring correspondent, Honest John (sic), says that 
the 206 Diesel is the best small car ever and the 206 GTI is the 
best hot-hatch ever. If anyone has one of the latter for sale, I'm 
in the market...

I had a Citroen Volcane and it was a fabulous car - it even had four-
wheel steering - more akin to a Golf GTI than a 306.

Regards

Colm


--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Martin Gutkowski <martin@xxxx> wrote:
> The XUD series of diesels in the older Peugeots and Citroens are 
one of 
> the most reliable engines ever made. Apart from head gaskets at 
> approximately 150,000 miles, they are like clockwork and are 
entirely 
> mechanical. Incredibly reliable, and good for over 60mpg on a long 
run. 
> Service interval is 6000 miles but is just an oil and filter which 
comes 
> in at less than 20 quid if you use the cheap stuff and do it 
yourself - 
> which incidentally couldn't be easier on those engines. The turbos 
are a 
> lot faster and more fun to drive. Look out for the Citroen ZX 
Volcane 
> which is the fastest diesel with one of those engines and is 
basically 
> the same as the 306 but a damn site more comfortable, and cheaper 
> because it doesn't have the image of the 306. I hate 306's for the 
> driving position, but that's just me.
> 
> Diesels are only more noisy at idle and low revs - commonly called 
> "valve clatter". At speed, they're often quieter than petrols 
(cite 
> Citroen Xantia HDi 90 vs 2.0 16v petrol, the HDi was quieter in a 
> drive-by noise test).
> 
> You touched ona subject close to my heart - my DeLorean is the 
only car 
> I've ever owned that wasn't a diesel. I had a Citroen BX DTR Turbo 
which 
> had the 1.7 turbo XUD. Verity now has one of her own - shame she 
can't 
> drive it yet! I now drive a Xantia HDi 110 and it's these modern 
diesels 
> that are converting many people to the oil burners! I had my BX 
from 
> 114,000 to 185,000 miles and my Xantia's gone from 21,000 to 
130,000 and 
> still going strong doing 160 miles a day currently. Service 
interval on 
> an HDi (peugeot or Citroen) is 12,500 miles. If you go for an HDi, 
do 
> try and get a 110 as although more powerful, are actually more 
> economical and cleaner.  Work that one out! Insurance might be 
nasty for 
> you though
> 
> Martin
> 
> John Tien wrote:
> 
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Sorry to post off topic stuff, but I need advise
> > before buying a 'student' car.
> >
> > My choice is either Peugeot 106 or 306, but I haven't
> > got much idea about the difference (price/ mpg...
> > etc)between a diesel and a petrol. I was told that
> > diesel gets more mpg but need more frequent
> > servicing?? All I am totally sure about is that petrol
> > cars don't make as much noise comparing to diesel...
> >
> > Many Thanks!!
> > John
> > DOC 8





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