Chrispy wrote: The trick is NOT to break them off in the first place. I didn`t break the stud off, the three studs were broken when I got the car..... it came with a bad exhaust blow (I think Claire Usher knows what one of them sounds like!!! :O) Alan and MXI 4811 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]