If you think is difficult to get the jack under the front now...don't make the mistake of putting the back up on axel stands first.....you can barely get anything at all under the front then! That's one of the reasons I use the anti-roll bar mounting...But I don't want to get intro all that again! Aldi (or is it the other cheap store, Liddell ) are currently selling off new 2 tonne trolley jacks for £9.95!!! . don't make the same mistake I witnessed about 30 years ago, where a mechanic put a jack under the middle of a Morris 1000, he then put another jack under the diff at the rear, he had got the car about a foot in the air, with all four wheels removed, before it toppled sideways! Always use axel stands! BTW John, you must have a friend or neighbour who is a bit handy around cars? Rope him in to show you how to go on initially. Chrispy -----Original Message----- From: jchapelhow [mailto:chapelhow@xxxx] Sent: 01 August 2003 20:08 To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [doc] 'Modern' style air conditioning OK, I have a new 2 tonne car jack and 2x 3 tonne jack stands from Halfords (together with extendable tyre arm and inspection light!), but it doesn't fit anywhere under my 'lowered' car. My first attempt to lift the car on the oem DMC jack did *not* lift the car enough to get my new 'proper' jack under the front of the car, it doesn't get past the front axle. I am heading back tomorrow to get some of the mini car ramp things to get an extra couple of inches. Am I now the only one driving on the 4 original tyres? What can be done with them if I swap them for new replacements (I have nowhere to store them), clean answers only on this query please! The tyre have done less than 12,000 miles and are in pretty much as-new condition. More tread on them than my everyday car! PS. Martin, my oil filter seems to be weeping oil out of a small hole, do you have them off the shelf, reply or e-mail off list with payment method and costs. John (yes well it sounded simple) Chapelhow DOC 19 : 'Boeing' 0737 DOC UK Website: www.delorean.co.uk Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group are assumed public and may be printed in the club magazine ** Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/