Hi Try Footman & James 0121 561 6250 Alistair #11622 I've just had an urgent phone call from Andy ( who is on holiday) who is horrified with his renewal quote from Sharman's. Can any one give me some leads for a better deal, for a 27 year old, clean licence, Car value 18K, 1500 miles, max. Garaged, other car for everyday use. Thanks Chris P -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com