From: Nick Tomlinson <nickandkathryntomlinson@xxxx>
Reply-To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [doc] Re: A few questions
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:56:29 +0100 (BST)
Hi Dan, that's my point about requiring an intercooler !
Nissan 1.8 turbo's engine don't use one either.
Didn't you have trouble with your calibras engine at one point?
Even my crappy daily runner White Astra saloon 1.7 Turbo Diesel has an
intercooler and that's just running 0.6bar.
It's be interesting to write the software to control the 'D's engine. I'm
looking to see if I can get 12volt PLC's (Programmable Logic Controller) as
this is what I program at work as well as other things.
Nick.
Daniel Willis <danielpwillis@xxxx> wrote:
Heh.. I'd love to see a non-intercooled turbo running 0.8bar on a hot day!
That'd be hilarious!
I upgraded my Calibra's intercooler to nearly 10 litres and push 1.5bar to
make 320bhp - regarless of weather. THAT'S fun!
Dan
>From: Nick Tomlinson <nickandkathryntomlinson@xxxx>
>Reply-To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [doc] Re: A few questions
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:24:17 +0100 (BST)
>
>Hi, of course the turbo on this type of engine is a bodge as it was an
>afterthought to try and increase the engine power prior to the release of
>the Twin-Turbo. The engine is a V6 where the V is space 90 degrees apart.
>The V should really be 60 degrees for the pistons to be equally spaced
>apart. (Originally the engine was designed to be a V8 but the oil crisis
>made them chop 2 cylinders off!) The top of the distributor looks wierd
as
>the HT points are not equally spaced apart. This is because the firing
>stroke is not even. The engine will run but the result is an unequal
>balanced engine with not the best gas-flow in the world. The Renault
turbo
>and delorean turbo would have to have its innards (crank) re-designed to
>give equal firing to make the gas flow a lot more even to satisfy the
turbo
>design. Oh I sound boring now....bla bla bla....Another thing about the
>turbo's is that there is no air-air intercooling. If we consider Boyles
Law
>(ideal gas) Pv=nrt if the air pressure is
> increased for a set volume then there will be an increase in gas
>(simplification here I know as the volume in a cylinder changes due to
the
>stroke of the piston) and this can lead to high temperature detonation
>sproblems. If you have a look on the true delorean there are intercoolers
>between the turbos and the inlet manifold. This also assumes that the
>air-fuel ratio at high revs with boost does not go lean. Some bodges are
to
>re-enable the cold-start valve when full throttle is enabled (on vw
engines
>with k-jetronic for example). In my opinion (and its an opinion) the
boost
>pressure should not be more then 0.6-0.8Bar at sea level for a non
>intercooled engine. I could yap on about engines forever but I have work
to
>do and I've just made myself sound like a v. sad man who doesn't get out
a
>lot which is not true (I take train numbers down in the evenings, ONLY
>KIDDING !)
>
>Nick.
>
>Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxx> wrote:
>I would love to see a photo. I've worked on Rich's engine and know some
>of the ins and outs of turboing these DeLorean engines (albeit that
>they're all bodges). It sounds like you might have something interesting
>there.
>
>Does it really have a new intake manifold, or just the bit in the middle?
>
>Oh, and Reno is a place in Nevada, where one of the gold DeLoreans
>lives. Renault is the French car manufacturer from whom so much of our
>engines come.
>
>Martin
>
>
>Chris Parnham wrote:
>
> >Frenchy has a new inlet manifold and metering head. I suspect it's a
Reno
> >one, with its thin solid metal feed pipes.
> >
> > I still have the original metering head etc., but have not worked my
way
> >back from the Petrol tank yet.......lots of time.....I'm enjoying the
> >challenge......besides my special friend and skilled
electro-mechanical
> >engineer, Nick Tomlinson and his wife Katherine, will be over with
his
> >tool box tucked in his DeLorean bonnet in a few weeks. He will help me
> >identify some of the dangling electrical connections and pipes.
> >
> > We will sort it out. I've already had it "popping and banging" after a
> >fashion by dribbling petrol down the cold start intake.
> >I'm still polishing the water pipes and suspension......you don't have
to
> >rush these things.
> >
> >Chrispy
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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