Dear Ian and all, The gullwing car should be M10 not M12, as it said in http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/bmwfuture.html This new coupe is the spiritual successor to the BMW M1 supercar. It is rumoured to use the E46 floorpan and a six cylinder engine, likely the same as the new M3. Taking their design from the Z1 Roadster the bottom half of the door drops into the body whilst the top half is a gull wing, Price may be around $75,000 and no I don't know when it's coming out or how likely it is to reach production. BMW need a car like this. John [286] __________________________________________________ According to John Tien's Law of Life: The knowledge you have is directly proportional to the amount of trouble you get... So, buy a classic; drive a classic; and live with a classic... in the end of the day you will get more knowledge than you think you will!! http://www.delorean.co.uk [DOC member 286]