Paul I got some Plasti Kote Vinyl dye 408 Charcol Gray. You cannot get it in the UK but when your in the US pop into any Pep boys, its about $5 a can. Regards Chris S __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.