Got to agree with you both there... I had exactly the same symptoms with my Escort RS Turbo. Turned out to be the head gasket failed and coolant squirted into the cylinder, with the hot cylinder and 'cooler' coolant the piston head 'popped' When I stripped the engine down there was a perfect hole about the size of a penny in the top of the piston, right through.... No compression!!! all the bits scored the inside of the bore and I had to have a rebore done.. This did blow off my oil filler cap and spray the engine bay with oil.... Sorry to be a downer... Good luck, it may not be as bad Paul -------Original Message------- From: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 10 January 2003 20:29:07 To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [doc] Re: piston broke I think I'm with James on this one. I'm sure the extra stain imposed by the Turbo was a major factor. The new car Martin recently bought, with a blown up engine was also formally turbo charged. Chrispy...non turbo'd.......mind you with full "Euro spec" free flowed exhausts, who needs turbo's! -----Original Message----- From: jamesrguk <James_rg@xxxx> [mailto:James_rg@xxxx] Sent: 10 January 2003 19:26 To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [doc] Re: piston broke Tony, if this is what the garage has said -- "My garage now says there is no compression in one cylinder" With the oil cap popping of it would sugest that it could be a piston or more likly a con rod issue, the big end on one of our vans at work went last week and had exacatally the same symptoms (without the flames as it had only just been started when it knackered). You could possibly have a sticking valve, this can happen, it may be related to the fact that turbo charged cars run hotter. I assume that the mechaic you took it to will infact fix it rather than a DIY job. The only way to tell this is to remove the rocker cover on the bank with the dodgy cylinder and check that all of the valves are shifting up and down correctly. A broken valve spring could cause these symptoms, the only thing is that this wouldn't explain the oil cap popping off. Anyway somthing to consider. James RG DOC UK Website: www.delorean.co.uk Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group are assumed public and may be printed in the club magazine ** Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ DOC UK Website: www.delorean.co.uk Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group are assumed public and may be printed in the club magazine ** Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------Boundary-00=_UTMIA0V2QL8000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="IncrediMail 1.0" name=GENERATOR> <!--IncrdiXMLRemarkStart> <IncrdiX-Info> <X-FID>FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000</X-FID> <X-FVER></X-FVER> <X-CNT>;</X-CNT> </IncrdiX-Info> <IncrdiXMLRemarkEnd--> </HEAD> <BODY style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px 10px 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=#ffffff background="" scroll=yes X-FVER="3.0" ORGYPOS="0"> <TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%"border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; CURSOR: auto; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" width="100%"> <DIV>Got to agree with you both there...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I had exactly the same symptoms with my Escort RS Turbo. Turned out tobe the head gasket failed and coolant squirted into the cylinder, with thehot cylinder and 'cooler' coolant the piston head 'popped'</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When I stripped the engine down there was a perfect hole about the size of a penny in the top of the piston, right through.... No compression!!! all the bits scored the inside of the bore and I had to have a rebore done..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This did blow off my oil filler cap and spray the engine bay with oil....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sorry to be a downer...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good luck, it may not be as bad</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Paul<BR> </DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> 10 January 2003 20:29:07</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> RE: [doc] Re: piston broke</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><TT>I think I'm with James on this one.<BR>I'm sure the extra stain imposed by the Turbo was a major factor. The new<BR>car Martin recently bought, with a blown up engine was also formally turbo<BR>charged.<BR><BR>Chrispy...non turbo'd.......mind you with full "Euro spec" free flowed<BR>exhausts, who needs turbo's!<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: jamesrguk <James_rg@xxxx> [mailto:James_rg@xxxxxxxxxxx]<BR>Sent: 10 January 2003 19:26<BR>To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Subject: [doc] Re: piston broke<BR><BR>Tony,<BR><BR>if this is what the garagehas said --<BR><BR>"My garage now says there is no compression in one cylinder"<BR><BR>With the oil cap popping of it would sugest that it could be a<BR>piston or more likly a con rod issue, the big end on one of our vans<BR>at work went last week and had exacatally the same symptoms (without<BR>the flames as it had only just been started when it knackered).<BR><BR>You could possibly have a sticking valve, this can happen, it may be<BR>related to the fact that turbo charged cars run hotter. I assume that<BR>the mechaic you took it to will infact fix it rather than a DIY job.<BR>The onlyway to tell this is to remove the rocker cover on the bank<BR>with the dodgy cylinder and check that all of the valves are shifting<BR>up and down correctly.<BR>A broken valve spring could cause these symptoms, the only thing is<BR>that this wouldn't explain the oil cap popping off.<BR><BR>Anyway somthing to consider.<BR><BR>James RG<BR><BR><BR>DOC UK Website: www.delorean.co.uk<BR>Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group are assumed<BR>public and may be printed in the club magazine **<BR><BR>Your use of Yahoo! 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