On 18-10-2002 00:51, paulus260572 wrote: > Just to let you know you can get them at bttf.com. > I don't know if they are the same though. Totally different: PS2 vs. USB plastic die cast colors vs. colored/painted buttons on trunk vs. buttons on exhausts thus cable on front vs cable on back... Also looks much smaller. I'd really like the one John came up with; on the box it said it was Mac-compatible, so I can even USE it instead of just displaying... Would be even cooler to have this kind of mouse in a wireless, optical way: that way you'd get the glow from the illumination on the bottom, making the hoover-effect even more realistic! Just dreaming... sigh... JAN van de Wouw Thinking Different... Using a Mac... Living the Dream... Driving a DeLorean... #05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000 ------------------------------