On 28-09-2002 00:46, Jan van de Wouw wrote: >>> BTW does the new system look anything like Ed Uding's one? >> Not a lot, the pipes are a lot shorter and less complicated. >> The silencer looks stock. > If you want to know more about Ed's system, ask me again > next monday, after our falldrive-weekend, I wille have seen > and heard the complete system installed then... Too bad: just got back from the weekend, had a great time, but Michiel did not hav his car with him due to technical reasons. One of his valves had gone "floating", got hit by the piston and I think we all know what happens next... Back to square one... I DID see something "new" today: the stock headers with a pipe on both, curling down, then back, OUTSIDE the engine-cradle and two separate dampers, so-called "cherry bombers" (?). Sounded really great, was said to be quite inexpensive and did improve performance; his stock engine outran mine in a sprint. Mine hasn't got a cat and I've removed the thermal valve in the inlet, while he still has the valve in place... Are there any pictures available yet? and/or a soundfile? Will they ship to the Netherlands? JAN van de Wouw Thinking Different... Using a Mac... Living the Dream... Driving a DeLorean... #05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000 ------------------------------