----- Original Message ----- From: "James Espey" <james@xxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 2:46 AM Subject: [DML] Re:1982 DMC is concours? > Regarding the recent discussions about concours, aftermarket mods > (Tankzilla, braided steel clutch lines, etc) - > > The Cooncours Judging Manual located here: > > http://www.delorean.com/files/handbook.pdf > > Pretty much spells it out. As far as "invisible" mods like the relay > update kit, tankzilla, lockzilla, etc go, if the Judges can't see it > immediately, you probably won't get deducted. If you TELL the Judges > you have it, you'll probably get deducted. The braided steel clutch > line can be seen from underneath the car depending on how it was > installed, so it's an easy one to deduct for. The Judges do NOT look > in the relay compartment, or the fuel pump access cover so if you > have updated relays, or one of the Zilla products, as long as you > keep quiet about it, you won't get deducted. > > Generally speaking, common-sense safety/reliability updates are very > minor deductions which can sometimes be offset by having the original > part (in a concours-like condition) accompanying the car during > judging (an example would be the coolant overflow bottles). > > I welcome the previous Millennium concours Judges thoughts and experiences. > > FYI, the next official DeLorean Concours are scheduled for EuroFest > in Belfast in May and at our Open House, June 15-17, 2001. > > James Espey > DeLorean Motor Company > Houston, Texas > > 281/568-9573 > 800/USA-DMC1 > http://www.delorean.com > > >In the most recent concours held in Cleavland and going by the judging > >manual created by James Espey and Steve Wynn of DMC Houston the car > >would have points deducted for every change or modifacation from "BONE > >STOCK" (including the smaller circuit breakers for the cooling fans > >and blower and old door lock module). In some other concours events > >held by other marques if you have the correct parts on the ground by > >the car or can produce documentation that the car was sold by the > >dealer that way they will accept it.Some car clubs like AACA allow any > >safety related changes like turn signals, seat belts, safety glass > >etc. As long as the owner has the origional parts and didn't cut the > >car up you can return it to stock condition. A perfect concours car > >would IMHO require all zillas which is a considerable investment plus > >new tires, header bottle, radiater, battery switch, etc to be a good > >and reliable daily driver and not just a show car. > >David Teitelbaum > >vin 10757 2nd place Cleavland Millenium 2000 concours > > > > > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@xxxx >