Hi all, Thanks Tris! Okay, Footman James will probably be the only people to speak to but I haven't even called them yet and I don't intend to for some time. My car is sooooo far from completion that I don't need any more reasons to hurry her on to the road! But I can say this. 17? DeLorean? Nope. I am 21 and £3000 on my own / £2000 under my father were the previous best quotes. HAH! (Plus that was second car, 1500 miles, garaged, alarmed/tracked, blah blah blah). Good luck if you do try though! Dan Willis, VIN #5641, Member 101 > From what I've heard (mainly from DAN WILLIS, who I'm positive will verify > as soon he sees his name here) Footman James is your best (and maybe only) > bet. I daresay they'll still stick two fingers up though, and you'll be > seeing the finger-nail side....