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Re: [doc] Non Start - Advice Please
- From: "Robin Simpson" <rps@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:59:37 -0000
We'll I (and the AA man that was looking at it for 3 hours !) have 
failed.
Got fuel, got a spark, had the plugs in and out more times than I 
care to remember, checked all the fuses loads of time, checked the 
fuel pump etc etc etc and it still doesn't bloody start !
Recover to DMUK booked for tuesday - will let you know the outcome.
Cheers
Robin
--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Richard" <dickyh11@xxxx> wrote:
> Without wishing to sound like a stuck record/patronising or
> condescending or any of those other things that happen through
> misinterpreted emails,
> You *have* checked all your fuses right? Particularly 1&7...
> 
> A working rev counter is not necessarily an indication of a working 
RPM
> relay, since they share the same signal line, however, a working 
fuel
> pump when cranking -is- a sign the RPM is working (at least 
partially)
> 
> There is this strange obsession with the cold start valve/thermo 
time
> switch being the root of all evil when it comes to non-cold-
starters, I
> know of at least two cars that start perfectly well without the cold
> start valve connected!
> 
> Do some pulling and re-plugging of fuses and relays, crappy 
connections
> here are the common cause of electrical failures....
> 
> Rich H
> DOC 365 VIN 1274
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robin Simpson [mailto:rps@xxxx]
> > Sent: 26 March 2005 20:12
> > To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [doc] Non Start - Advice Please
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi All
> > 
> > Well, had an hours worth of fiddling before it got too cold and 
too
> > dark and still nothing !
> > 
> > Swapped the regulator plug to the cold start valve which made no
> > difference, pump is definately working, RPM relay is working as 
the
> > revcounter works when cranking, there is power to the coil, and
> > theres a fuel smell after continued cranking.
> > 
> > Am gonna get an assist in the morning and see if we've got sparks 
to
> > the plugs, and if so I have no idea !
> > 
> > All the fuel filters we changed less than 3000 miles ago as was 
all
> > of the injectors, metering head, fuel pressure regulator and coil.
> > 
> > Will keep you posted.
> > 
> > R
> > 
> > --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "nick12dmc" <Tammyfew@xxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have had similar problems with LJH. Warren a DMC Houston
> > > advises checking the electrical connectors on the cold start 
valve
> > > and the thermo time switch. The spade connectors can push up 
into
> > > the plugs and cause intermitant starting.
> > > Another area to check is the fuel tank, The fuel pump may be 
working
> > > but check its pumping fuel and the filter screen or pick up hose
> > are
> > > not cloged. This causes reduced fuel pressure which is LJH's
> > problem.
> > > When I get chance I will have to do some tank diving.
> > > (oh and check the fuel pump fuse just in case its that)
> > > Regards
> > > Nick H
> > >
> > > --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Richard" <dickyh11@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > It'd still start without it, you'd just have to crank it a 
little
> > > more.
> > > >
> > > > I'd bet diamonds it's electrical, let us know how you get on 
when
> > > you
> > > > get home
> > > >
> > > > Rich H
> > > > DOC 365 VIN 1274
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Robin Simpson [mailto:rps@xxxx]
> > > > > Sent: 26 March 2005 13:18
> > > > > To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: Re: [doc] Non Start - Advice Please
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Rich
> > > > >
> > > > > > Unlikely, the thermo time switch fires your cold start
> > injector
> > > to
> > > > > > assist with a cold start....
> > > > >
> > > > > Exactly - it won't cold start.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pump is definately running.
> > > > >
> > > > > Am at work so can't have a play about until later.
> > > > >
> > > > > R
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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