Re: [DML] Serious Megasquirt Question

[Michael Griese <mike.griese@xxxxxxx>]

Every Lotus since the Esprit has no spare - Elise S1, S2, Federal versions, 
Exige, Elan and Evora.  Since around 1995 or '96 neither have Lamborghini, 
Ferrari, Zonda, Spyker, Bugatti, some BMWs (Z3 and Z4 come to mind), I'm sure 
there are more.  


In my personal experience, I have wasted far more fuel hauling around dead 
weight in the form of a spare tire than I would have saved in tows for the 2 
times I needed a spare.  And that is over roughly a million miles traveled.  
Probably a million and three quarters if you include my wife's miles.

 --
Mike




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From: "Nelson, Allan" <abnelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, April 24, 2012 12:47:53 PM
Subject: RE: [DML] Serious Megasquirt Question

  
Nonsense.  Corvettes have not come with spare tires for over 15 years.
There aren't even any provisions for one.  There are probably other cars
as well.

Al

From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of content22207
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:31 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [DML] Serious Megasquirt Question

I got in shortly after 3:00 this morning. Had I gotten a flat tire on
the way home, *ALL* tire shops would have been closed (except the truck
stops of course, which deal in 22 inch rims).

AAA is what it is, but what it isn't is a substitute for a usable spare
tire -- a piece of emergency survival gear that has been standard
equipment on every single automobile ever built since the Model T
forward.

Bill Robertson
#5939

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"DarkStar Media" <darkstarmedia@...> wrote:
>
> Actually AAA will tow you wherever you want to go. If you elect to
have
> yourself towed to a closed tire shop, who's fault is it?
> 
> Richard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
> content22207
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:21 AM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: [DML] Serious Megasquirt Question
> 
> 
> 
> As I explained in Message #84549 I have two ignition modules in my
car: the
> Duraspark module that is my primary ignition controller, and the
original
> Bosch unit which is currently sitting idle. Because no wiring mods
were
> made, I can switch between them at will: if the Duraspark unit ever
fails,
> all I have to do is plug the Bosch module in and get right back on the
road.
> 
> Duraspark modules are of course stock items at all parts houses, but
that
> wouldn't do me any good after hours (like now: I've just gotten in
from a
> nocturnal drive back to North Carolina).
> 
> I also carry a full size 50,000 mile steel belted radial spare tire.
If I
> ever get a flat tire in the middle of the night (or during daylight
hours on
> a weekend), I can get right back on the road. I could drive through
state
> after state after state on my spare, at highway speeds, if necessary.
I did
> drive all over the DC area on it once looking for an in stock
235/60-15 tire
> (sliced sidewall -- no way to repair that). Note that AAA will only
tow you
> to one tire shop and leave you there -- if the shop is closed, or if
they
> don't have your tire size in stock, you're screwed. Any owner who
doesn't
> carry a usable spare tire is just asking for trouble, especially with
> pavement coming apart these days (the jagged edge of a pothole claimed
my
> sidewall). There also is a lot of crap on the roads that can puncture
a tire
> (does AAA plug tires on the side of the road?).
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> , "Owen"
> <omalbec@> wrote:
> >
> > What is your contingency plan today should your stock Ignition
Control
> Unit craps out (it is 30+ years old after all)? Or your stock RPM
relay? Or
> your fuel pump? Or.... we can play this game all night. It doesn't
matter
> one iota if your fuel delivery is mechanical if your spark control is
> electronic.
> > 
> > I for one believe that whether one is K-Jetted, carburetted or
EFI'd, AAA
> or classic insurance with towing package is probably a prudent
investment. I
> don't care what your fueling mechanism, if you lose your spark
control,
> you're screwed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "content22207" <brobertson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I mean controller replacement. My little brother had to replace
the
> onboard computer in his Oldsmobile not too long ago. For some reason
the
> thing died while he was at work. 
> > > 
> > > Onboard electronics do die. I helped a DeLorean owner last year
whose
> Bosch ignition module had died (his dead ECU donated the harness
connector
> for the adapter my Duraspark module is using).
> > > 
> > > All electronic devices are subject to failure. It is
unrealistically
> optimistic to claim that one's own devices will never fail. If I was
totally
> dependent upon an onboard controller for my fuel delivery, I would
> definitely have a contingency plan.
> > > 
> > > Bill Robertson
> > > #5939
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "DarkStar Media" <darkstarmedia@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Define "dies"...
> > > > 
> > > > If the computer shorts out it's dead anyway and no laptop or
phone 
> > > > will do anything about it, just like any ECU.
> > > > 
> > > > Baring that they are extremely reliable and once setup just run
and
> run.
> > > > 
> > > > If there is a re-boot while running (usually only if you are 
> > > > screwing with
> > > > it) you see a hiccup but the MS ECU tends to recover before the 
> > > > engine drops more than 100rpm (think slight stumble).
> > > > 
> > > > Richard
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > ] On Behalf Of
> > > > content22207
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:31 PM
> > > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [DML] Serious Megasquirt Question
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If the onboard controller dies, do you have to reload all the
fuel 
> > > > maps from scratch? If so, is there a smartphone interface so you

> > > > don't have to upload them from a laptop?
> > > > 
> > > > I'm thinking about what happens if the controller dies while 
> > > > you're on a trip.
> > > > 
> > > > On my own car I am only dependent upon the ignition ECU, and I 
> > > > carry a spare for that (Duraspark is my primary ECU and the 
> > > > original Bosch unit is my backup).
> > > > 
> > > > Bill Robertson
> > > > #5939
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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