I'd have to say I agree 100% with Mike. It was getting to the point where only a couple of us were on the moderation schedule and half the time I would log in and there would be no messages. Then we would wait until the next day, or the next day, and finally there are a couple messages. Hard to get moderators engaged and when it takes a week to get a few reponses to a question, no one wants to ask them anymore. The DML was on life-support and we had little choice but to give unmoderated messages a try. I like the instant responses coming through, but there is a saying that if you want to get the milk from a cow you might have to step around the cow pies. There are a couple of posters on here that in my opinion are the cow pies, but other times I find the back-and-forth pretty funny. I understand some readers are fed up with it, but the alternative is not much better. Anyway, enough of this. It's a beautiful day and I just got my new pump hoses from DMCMW. Time to turn a couple wrenches. Andy --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Michael Griese <mike.griese@...> wrote: > > I am not displeased. > > The thing to remember is the rules for the list. It is about the car, the man > and the company. Bill talking about putting carburetors on his car or any other > modification does not break any of the site rules. It's when the discussion > disintegrates into personalities is when we start to run into problems with the > rules. > > > As far as moderation goes, I get about the same number of complaints about a > moderated list as an unmoderated one. Towards the end of the moderated phase, > the list was not seeing much traffic and discussion continuity was suffering. > And quite frankly, there wasn't enough traffic to keep the moderators engaged, > so the delays between when a post was submitted and when it went through was > unpredictable and lengthy. The ratio of post that went through was almost 100%, > so all the moderating team was doing was adding delay. > > Unmoderated we have a lot more traffic, but we also seem to have a lot more > noise. A lot of the noise is down to the fact that responses go through > immediately and we wind up with bursty behavior. The funny thing is, the level > of noise and the rate of posting is completely up to the participants. > > > Let's try an experiment. Pretty much everyone involved with the list recently > has been around a long time and should have a darned good idea of what content > in a post would pass moderation and what would not. How about, for the next > couple of weeks, everyone puts on their moderator hat and takes a good look at > what they are writing before pressing send. If there is any question in your > mind - fix it or click delete. > > > -- > Mike > > > > > ________________________________ > From: James Espey <james@...> > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wed, March 21, 2012 2:21:55 PM > Subject: [DML] Moderation, yes or no? (was: Re: Limit users.) > > > Mike, are you pleased with the results? > > What about everyone else? > > I started a poll â?" your choice will be kept anonymous. Poll will close and > results made public April 4th. > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/surveys?id=3093782 > > James > > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Michael Griese > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:02 PM > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Limit Users. > > Not quite. This forum had always been moderated from the beginning. It went > unmoderated the first time just recently. > > -- > Mike > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/