Re: [DML] Carburetion Thread

["Martin Gutkowski" <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Harold didn't say "designed for", he said "developed with". You know perfectly well the lambda system is on there, the distributor has a different curve and in some cases the cams have a different profile. It IS an engine developed for fuel injection.

Oh and by the way, not having K-Jet ports in the heads does not prevent you from fitting fuel injection, just K-Jet injection

Martin


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From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 04:40:11 
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Subject: Re: [DML] Carburetion Thread

Harold claimed that the PRV was designed for fuel injection:
"You cannot possibly expect an engine developed with fuel injection to
meet California emission standards to even come close to those standards again when you toss all the fuel components away and do a Rube Goldberg carburetor install." (Message #83534)

That is patently false -- fuel injection was overlaid on the PRV nearly 10 years after its developement.

For the record: the carb conversions I have done for others are not "Rube Goldberg" at all -- they are very carefully and painstakingly crafted to be as professional and close to a factory installation as possible. Not one of their recipients has complained to me that I made him a "Rube Goldberg" installation. 

Note also that every single person I have helped came to me and requested assistance -- I did not go to them. If I am guilty of anything, it is of saying "yes."

Bill Robertson
#5939


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@...> wrote:
>
> This "history lesson"..  Which of these carburetor PRV engines were US emissions approved in 1981? 
> 
> And, once again---  Most people are not finding fault with what YOU have done to YOUR car..  The problem comes when you start advocating that others do the same for "benefits" that are simply false. 
> 
> --- On Sat, 2/25/12, content22207 <brobertson@...> wrote:
> 
> > Quick history lesson for you:
> > 
> > The PRV was laid down in the late 1960's, and debuted in
> > 1974 under a carburetor (single barrel Solex) in the Volvo
> > 264. In 1975 it appeared under dual carburetors (1 and 2
> > barrel Solexes) in the Peugeot 504 and Renault 30. That same
> > setup was used in the 1976 Alpine. Renault starting winning
> > a variety of races in 1978 with Alpines powered by triple
> > carburated PRV's (three 2 barrel Webers). K-Jet as you know
> > it was not installed on the PRV until 1978/1979 -- almost 10
> > years after initial engine design.
> 
> > 
> > Look closely at my heads:
> > http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/316135_269769496401641_100001057778755_826279_2092531906_n.jpg
> > Notice anything missing? (Hint: injector bungs). My engine,
> > which bears a 1985 manufacturing plate (that's two years
> > *AFTER* the last DeLorean model year...) was never intended
> > to be fuel injected. It was always meant to be carbureted.
>




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