Re: [DML] Re: DMCH Open House - Haddad speech.

[Cecil Longwisch <dmc8182@xxxxxxxxx>]

Having the opportunity to purchase and read some of John's personal letters
from the bankruptcy lawyer, his attention to making the company a success
are evidenced in these.* If he was not driven to make the car a success he
would not have been involved in the details of engineering  and company
operation . His personal handwritten notes that are contained in the letters
document this.* John's fault may have been lack of focus which is seen in
his vision of a diverse DMC. He was constantly looking for opportunities for
growth (including buying other car companies) and in having a company with a
full line of vehicles.

I am sure there were hints of truth in Bill's speach but the years may have
blurred some of the facts.
It was however insight most of us had never heard. I never thought of him
as a saint as there are probably few at the top of most auto companies with
the politics  and competition for success at that level.

Cecil Longwisch
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On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> **
>
>
> One of my favorite parts of Bill's speech was the chunk about buying his
> son
> a DeLorean when he graduates from Law School. He kept repeating."and that
> is absolutely true! I will do this." Nothing else he said all morning was
> "absolutely true". That says it all right there.
>
> John DeLorean was not perfect, (except to us nerds) but he certainly wasn't
> the man Bill Haddad made him out to be last Saturday either.
>
> -Josh
>
> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> jtrealtywebspannet
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:10 PM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DML] Re: DMCH Open House - Haddad speech.
>
> No one else has a story that sounds anything like Bill Haddad's version.
> With no one saying anything to confirm his story it stands alone and is
> less
> credible. He probably was privy to a lot of inside information but even
> still you would expect by now to hear someone else confirm parts of it.
> With
> JZD or Colin Chapmin not able to defend themselves, Bill H can say anything
> and rewrite history making himself the "hero". If DMC was successful no one
> would even be looking at the "missing" 18 million. When things go bad the
> investigators (accountants) start bayoneting the wounded to cover up their
> own misdeeds. They should have known what was going on at the time.
> David Teitelbaum
>
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "Steelwings" <steelwings@...> wrote:
> >
> > Your last sentence hit the nail on the head! Atta-boy, Marc...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Marc Levy
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:59 AM
> > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [DML] DMCH Open House - Haddad speech.
> >
> >
> >
> > I disagree with you on this one. This guy is a professional PR person. It
> is his job to make you believe him. Of course, if he has been telling the
> same story for the past 30 years he may believe it by now!
> >
> > Back when his book came out, he was accused of taking money from GM to
> take down DeLorean. I have no idea if it is true or not, but there are 2
> sides to every story.. This is just one side of it.
> >
> > Starting out his presentation with making himself in to some super hero
> (fighting big pharmaceutical companies to distribute cheap AIDS medication)
> was the first indicator that he was being manipulative. "Hey, look at me! I
> am a good guy trying to help the world!". While it may be true (I don't
> know), it is irrelevant to why he was invited to speak to a group of
> DeLorean nerds.
> >
> > Then, he had to attribute JZD to using the "N-word" (he said the word).
> So, JZD was not only running an elaborate scheme to steal money from
> investors (mostly the British government), but he was a racist too? Sorry,
> I
> don't buy it. The whole implication that the car company was all a plan to
> steal $18 Million is the EXACT SAME crap they pulled on Preston Tucker.
> Both
> had essentially the same result of eliminating a competitor.
> >
> > Was $18 Million missing from a "secret" bank account? I think so.. Was
> that money for the specific purpose of splitting it between JZD and
> Chapman?
> Maybe.. But even if this was the intent, they still somehow built an
> estimated 10,000 cars. Hardly a scheme to just steal government money. Had
> the company survived, all of the players would have a lot more than that
> "missing" money. Sacrifice an entire car company for $9 Million? Risk
> destroying your life and family with a drug deal instead of taking more
> "investor" money? Sorry, I don't believe it. Why would any rational person
> make a decision like that. Behavior like this has motivation, and Haddad's
> only explanation is greed to steal $9 Million (half of the $18 Million).
> Not
> enough money for a man in JZD's position to make a decision like that
> (IMHO,
> of course).
> >
> > Either way, I am glad Mr. Haddad joined us, and told his side of the
> story. I was just a bit annoyed that the majority of the audience seemed to
> accept his version as "fact".
> >
> > --- On Wed, 10/19/11, Travis Graham <tgraham@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I thought Bill Haddad's speech was great! He sure
> > > didn't sugar-coat anything (both the good and the bad), but
> > > I got the sense he was being honest.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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