Hello Don I'm glad you like my ideas. I do realize that our cars are not $100K, but a lot of owners, like myself, don't really think about what the car is worth. I love my DeLorean and it doesn't matter if it's worth $10 or $100K. I still want to make improvements and make it better, faster, nicer and last longer. There is a problem if I can afford those improvements but that is a different story. I'm still talking with the manufacturer trying to get the best price and quality possible. The most expensive part here is the mould but that is a one time fee. This means that the cost of the mould and tooling will be divided by the number of orders. The more people order the part, the lower the final price will be. The mould required to make new louvers will cost about $8000. If we can get 10 people each will have to pay $800, but if we can find 20 people this cost will drop to $400 each. Each carbon fiber louver will cost about $1000. This means that each unit will cost about $1800 with 10 orders and about $1400 with 20 orders. Plus shipping. That is why I mentioned the price of $2000 with shipping included. Original fiberglass unit costs about $500. Is the carbon fiber unit four times better? To me it is! I hope we can make it happen for the price you mentioned. I will let everyone know... Come on people!! Let's make this happen! :) By the inner bumper structure you mean the foam 'block' that sits just behind the fascia? If yes then this part is completely independent of the fascia and its design. It is up to the owner to decide if he wants to keep it or not. The fascia is exactly the same either way. On my car I want to keep the inner structure. The way people follow the DeLorean so close makes me afraid that I will eventually be rear ended. You know, everyone wants to take a closer look and they follow one, maybe two car lengths behind me. If I have to hit the brakes.... the disaster is just waiting to happen. I have received some suggestions that I could remove the black bumper strip. This might be a good idea. The manufacturer says that they might be able to use the same mould for both types of fascias - with and without the black bumper. There's also a question how to remove it. We can either make an exact copy but with the black strip made the same color as the rest of the fascia or we can "shave" the bumper off. This will depend on what the potential buyers want for their cars. That's all for now. I'll keep everyone posted on the progress of the talks with the manufacturer. Greetings from Poland! Tom Niemczewski Vin 6149 plus 2418, 3633, 5030, 16473, 17086 Google earth: 52°25'17.66"N, 21° 1'58.40"E -------------------------------------------------- From: "Don Ekhoff" > Tom, > > Love what you are trying to do. Problem is these are not $100K cars so > it's hard to justify serious discretionary add-ons for most owners. > Any chance to drop the price to get the volume up? I'd be interested in > three louver sets for $4000.00 assuming the combined shipping helps save > some cost. > > I also like the fascia idea. I have removed the inner bumper structure > from the rear fascia on two of my D's figuring the reduced weight well > worth the slight risk I could be rear-ended and it substantially > changing the outcome. Were you intending on removing or keeping the > inner bumper structure? > > Don Ekhoff > > > On 04/05/2011 04:20 PM, Tom Niemczewski wrote: >> >> James, >> >> The production will be in Poland but the prices I'm talking about already >> INCLUDE the shipping cost. > > > ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/