Josh, et al...... I was invited to sit in on a Board of Directors tela-conference last night and I must say I was impressed. The Directors are hardworking people who are trying their best to get the organization back on track. I had previously read the by-laws and was concerned about how they read and had expressed this to Josh. I was invited to express my views with the board and did so. I could not help but notice the openness of the Board and not defensiveness. The by-laws do need a re-write and I am willing to do my part in such an endeavor. The current by-laws create an air of secrecy by the way they are written. These need to change and must for the organization to be viable. Ron and Josh, et al..are on the right track and need to remove the wreckage they are carrying. Roy 00893 -----Original Message----- From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman@xxxxxxxx> To: dmcnews <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Feb 1, 2011 9:25 pm Subject: RE: [DML] Re: The DOA's "lawsuit", from the target of such I should amend my comments regarding the service manual project to state that it is intended to be free to the community once published in pdf or other web-friendly format. Sort of our own community driven "DeLorean Wikipedia" project to benefit everyone. Not just a single group or club. -Josh Josh Haldeman - Vice-President DeLorean Owners Association From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Josh Haldeman Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:46 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [DML] Re: The DOA's "lawsuit", from the target of such I've been in discussions here with a few people that have an interest in contributing to producing a GOOD DeLorean service manual. You've got knowledge in that area. Don't you think putting some effort into such a project would benefit not just local groups, but the whole of DeLoreandom? If you do, why not join the project? We welcome anyone in fact, who has some knowledge of the car and would like to see this happen. Just send me an e-mail expressing your interest, and I'll add you to the growing e-mail list of people that have joined in the effort so far. (jhaldeman(AT)fuse.net) Another endeavor I think would be fascinating to pursue was just suggested to me by Welmoed Jonker. He'd like to see a DeLorean Owners Directory, but with a twist. He'd like to see the history of ownership for each VIN (with the owner's consent, of course). Again, pretty much only something that an organization with the lifespan of the DOA could do. Couple that history with the connecting power of the internet, and some dedicated volunteers, and well, to paraphrase our favorite movie, "If we put our minds to it, we can accomplish anything". So, I urge everyone to ask themselves this question: Are you more interested in seeing what this relic of our community (The DOA) is capable of producing, or are you more interested in seeing that potential destroyed? The DOA doesn't belong to Ed Bernstein anymore, it belongs to you and me. Together we can do great things! -Josh Josh Haldeman - Vice-President DeLorean Owners Association From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>; [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>; ] On Behalf Of jtrealtywebspannet Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:31 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>; Subject: [DML] Re: The DOA's "lawsuit", from the target of such Starting a thread on the DOA will elicit a heated response, the subject has people with strong opinions both ways. It once was the premier club for the Delorean community. In the world as it is today with the Internet it has less relevance. As with many things in life if you ignore it, it will go away. It may continue as a local club but it has little if anything to offer the Delorean community at large. One reason they are having trouble getting much active participation outside their area. That and the fact that there is still a high level of mistrust and general ill feeling towards the DOA from way back. Just putting a new face on it is not enough. My advice is to support your local club. You will get direct results with your active participation in local events. All you will get from the DOA is an expensive glossy magazine irregularly. 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