Lawrence deserves both support and credit for producing new torsion bars. No one else has done this. The original production equipment has been destroyed. Making fun that it is not "new and improved" is not productive. They are new. As for improved? Has metal alloy technology and purity improved in the last 25 years. It sure has. Ever hear of high strength low alloy steel. This did not exist 25 years ago. If lawrence has been able to produce a torsion bar without cryo treatment, that is an improved production technology. If your torsion bar has not broken yet, an it eventually will, this is something we all are going to need. Bob ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/