Re: [DML] Starting problem?

["Dave Swingle" <swingle_dmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I thought he said the battery was good/new/charged/jumped so I wasn't 
going to argue with him, I was just going for the next-most-likely 
scenario. But Harold's points are correct. Check battery, battery 
connections (both posts!) and grounds, expecially the braid across 
the passenger side engine mount. 

I recently pulled the headers and the starter off a car here (hi 
Matt). I believe that you are correct - while you can detach the 
starter from the engine with the headers in place, I don't think you 
can get it out of the car without removing either the headers OR the 
transmission. Removing the headers is not all that bad since they 
have not been on there long enough for all the studs to rust up. 
Somewhat less work than removing the transmission (hi Matt again).

I've opened up solenoids that acted like this and generally the 
contacts are burned. I supposed you could replace just the solenoid, 
but (especially if it's a lot of work to get to it) they tend to wear 
out together. 

If you put the headers on yourself, you can replace a starter. Its 
more mechanical work than electrical.

Dave S <---(I also have starters in stock, right here in Illinois! As 
well as a nice warm shop with a couple of techs that can change it)

www.DMCMIDWEST.com - proudly joining the ranks of DML frequent 
advertisers??

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@...> 
wrote:
>
> I respect Dave's opinion and he may have alot more facts about your 
> situation - but, are you ABSOLUTELY SURE your battery is fully 
> charged??? I have seen my share of batteries that would activate 
the 
> solenoid and not the starter. Do the headlights stay bright when 
you 
> turn the key to start or do they go dim or out? They stay on = 
> probably a bad solenoid. They go out or dim = probably the battery 
or 
> a ground connection faulty.
> 
> Harold McElraft - 3354
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "coreysmoo" <coreysmoo@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the advice, everyone.
> > 
> > OK, from what I gather from various responses, the started 
soleniod 
> > is bad because when I turn the key, I hear a click coming from 
the 
> > relay behind the passenger seat, and I hear a click coming from 
> back 
> > by the engine.  Dave Swingle told me that if the solenoid clicks 
> but 
> > the car does not turn over, the solenoid is bad.
> > 
> > This raises a couple questions.
> > 
> > A.) Can I get the solenoid without buying a whole new starter?  
But 
> > on the same token, is it worth just replacing the whole starter?  
> It 
> > is the original.
> > 
> > B.) Is this something I can do myself?  I'm not too savvy when it 
> > comes to electronics.
> > 
> > C.)  I have DMCH's performance exhaust.  The headers seem to 
travel 
> > right over the starter.  Can I still get it out without taking 
off 
> > my exhaust and making this a huge project?



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