I bought an Optima battery in 2002 at Pep boys, I kept the invoice for the 3 year free replacement and I went through 4 optima batteries from 2002-2005! I am serious, and I have the invoices to prove it. Each time I took the battery to Pep boys with the invoice and they would give me a new one free of charge, after they put it on a tester and verified that it was bad. I was actually thinking of continuing to do that and never buying another battery again, but it takes them 1 hour to decide that the battery is dead. I finally got smart and asked for them to exchange it for whatever their 2nd best battery was, I don't remember what kind but it is a normal liquid cell battery and it has worked for over a year (Longer than any red top optima battery ever worked for me) I drive my Delorean nearly every day, it had never been stored or not started for more than 2 weeks max. I know so many people that swear they are the best, but I won't touch them again. Joe P. VIN 17167 6808 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/