Dave: Yes I had the same problems with Optima batteries. I had both a "Red" and "Yellow" label. They are fine batteries with plenty of power until they fail. They are stronger then the typical batteries offered on the market. BTW.... before the Optima batteries, I had three "Delco 60 months" rated and they failed too. My first "Red" top was purchased from Rob at PJ Grady when he was selling the Optima line. Some two years later, the "Red" developed one dead cell, which render the whole battery useless for it wouldn't kick the engine over with only 10 volts output. I had informed Rob about the battery as to obtain a replacement and only to find out that he dropped the Optima line, for the Optima?s returns on defective batteries and the pro rating policies was a pain for Rob to continue selling the Optima Line to serve his customers. Anyway, I then went to a local automotive audio store and purchased a "Yellow" top Optima. A year and a half later, the Yellow battery failed too. Since the failure yellow Optima had failed during the week of my birthday. My nephew and friends had all chipped in to buy me the top of the line Sears battery as a surprise birthday gift. I personally never have thought much of the Sear's line of batteries, but since it was a gift I accepted it and I have enjoyed every second of it for the last thirty months. This Sears battery have lasted longer then all of the other batteries that had been in my DeLorean. Kayo Ong #5508 Lic 9D NY To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/