Thanks Joey and all. I thought I was in pretty good shape. The entire cooling system except the heater core and the hard pipes is new from usual vendors. I have the full bleeding kit from Toby which includes the radiator bleeder. I even recently purchased his adjustable fan control (otterstat replacement)but had not put it in yet as it involved draining the system. Seems like the consensus is that there is plenty of simple things that can go wrong in the cooling system before worrying about the head gasket - so I'll replace the thermostat and install the new temp sensor and then do a pressure bleed as suggested. NEW QUESTION THEN - I have Herveys new fans that draw much less amperage, and also the ultra simple fan fix that uses relay bases and fuses only. I've heard that the low end fan fix is not a great solution, but isn't it just fine when coupled with lower draw fan motors? Grady's fan fix sounds a lot cheaper than a head gasket, but I'd love to keep it on page 2 or 3 of my long list if it's a "would like" not a "must have". Tom -----Original Message----- From: Joey Morgan [mailto:jlm1701music@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:56 PM To: Tom Tait Subject: Re: [DML] Overheating question Hey Tom, How are your fans working? Do they cycle like they are suppose to? If not, you may need to get a fan fix, I suggest the (Grady) one. Do you have an automatic bleeder kit, many vender's sell them and I have one on mine. Could be the thermostat as well. I do not know what your budget or finances are but if they are tight I would start with the most inexpensive,(thermostat) and new otterstat, if you still have the problem get an automatic bleeder kit, and if the problem is still there get the fan fix. That's what I would do. The process of elimination. If it does end up being a blown head gasket, you have taken the proper steps in helping keep the car cool. Hope this helps. Good luck. Keep us posted. Joey Morgan Catonsville, MD #6297 --- Tom Tait <TTait@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I recently had my otterstat shoot out and lost all > my coolant and now > have one of two problems. > > Either I need to do a better job bleeding the > radiator or I may have > warped a head. The car runs nicely for at least 30 > minutes, then it > starts to heat up, finally spewing coolant out of > the overflow which I > then replace and try to bleed again. > > Each time it seems like all is well, then I go on a > longer drive on a > hot day and it blows again. How can I tell the > difference between > trapped air and exhaust gas getting into the cooling > system? > > No loss of power, no obvious water contamination in > the oil at the > dipstick, no oil in the coolant that I can tell. > > I've had two friends with other cars blow head > gaskets this month - so > I'm nervous - suggestions? > > Tom > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating > team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for > sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/