Re: [DML] Re: Failed emmissions AGAIN

["Tom Niemczewski" <tomciodmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Dan

That is a very good question. And the answer to that would be that whoever 
wrote the Owner's Handbook must have made a mistake or just forgot to 
mention that in YOUR book. I say "your" book because mine clearly states 
that in the USA 87 should be used and that 91 was for Europe. Maybe I have a 
later version of the book that was updated.
Anyway, in the Owner's Book that I have there is a mention of that on page 
40. Right on top, on the right side of the page. Here's an EXACT copy of 
that:

Fuel Requirements
USA
Your De Lorean is designed to operate at factory specifications at UNLEADED 
GASOLINE only of at least 87 anti-knock index (R+M/2) (91 research octane 
number)

Is this a bulletproof enough source? :)

Of course you might say that "at least" means that it can operate on 93. And 
you will be right. It CANNOT use anything less that 87 because it will cause 
damage. Anything more that 87 CAN be used. 93 CAN be used without causing 
immediate damage to the engine but it is a great waste of money and if the 
engine is designed to operate on 87 then 93 is not as good for it. The 
higher the octane number the less chance for detonation but at the same time 
combustion temperatures are higher.
Use 87! Your car will be much better with it in the long run.
And the most important thing - 93 IS NOT BETTER than 87. It is just 
DIFFERENT! The names "premium" or "super" are just clever marketing by the 
oil companies to make the customers feel that they are getting something 
better that is worth the higher price. In reality they are just the same but 
meant for different engines. The car I have here in Europe runs on 95 (RON) 
about 91 (R+M/2). It was designed for that gas. DeLorean was designed for 91 
(RON) which is 87 (R+M/2)

I hope this clears things up for you a bit. And don't forget to check page 
40 in the Manual.


Tom Niemczewski
vin 6149 (in Poland!)
tomciodmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.deloreana.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan" <djdanwilson@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: [DML] Re: Failed emmissions AGAIN


> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tom Niemczewski" <tomciodmc@xxxx> wrote:
>>
>> One of the reasons for your failed emissions might be the prolonged
> use of
>> premium fuel.
>
> Tom, here's another good question for you, or for anyone else that can
> address it:
>
> The DeLorean was manufactured to be sold in the United States with the
> exception of the 100 or so cars in the 17000 VIN series which were for
> Canada, right? The car was not technically for sale in Europe. That
> being the case then why would American cars intended and destined for
> sale in the U.S. market come with Owner's Handbooks that reference the
> European 91 octane rather than the U.S. 91 octane?
>
> If the 91 octane referenced in the DeLorean Owner's Handbook was the
> European 91, and not the U.S. 91, 





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