Re: Stolen in Seattle Thanks and well spoken timnagin!! That was my point in that message,To make people aware,of the Delorean shortfalls in that matter,To make people aware that a Delorean is not nessarlly stolen for its parts value,but for its value as a "whole car",and most importantlly,to carefully check the vins,when making a purchase,and to look closely at any Delorean where things do not match up with the vin and year,as a suspect for a vin change,as I am sure that there must be at least a few Deloreans running around with "suspect" vins.Because you MUST remember-- if you happen to own one of those "suspect" vehicles,you lose your rights to that Delorean(and all monies paid for it(and put into it)and the real (true) owner gets the car back,with all your improvements.And you might also face criminal charges.So Buyer Beware,and don't just check for a rusty frame.Also remember carfax is USELESS for a car with "suspect" vins,as it will only give info,for the Vin numbers not the actual car.ALWAYS ALWAYS check the vin plates for tampering.One very good idea is to have the VIN NUMBER etched into the fiberglass,in about 20 plus different areas,as the fiberglass body IS the Vin! And as the fiberglass is a soft material,it could be done with almost any tool.I did it to vin #00570,when I had the rear Qpanel off.Even putting it under the headliner with a black marker is better than nothing,but would be confused with the orignal stuff there.Etching the fenders or SS on the backside is risky,as it MIGHT also etch onto the outside finish surface.A good spot would be the fenderwells,because that usually fills with dirt and "hides" the Vin number,and easy to check on a "parked Delorean",a little rubbing and the numbers are exposed. Just my 3cents on protecting your "D" and not living a nightmare CBL --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxx> wrote: > David, > > This is just more security through obscurity. I seriously doubt any > professional car thief is lurking on a relatively obscure Yahoo group just > waiting for bits of information on how to break into and steal a De Lorean. > If a car thief wants the car they will get it no matter what. > > The more information like this is shared among the group the better off > everyone is to prevent this from happening to them, or being scammed during > a new purchase. For example, if people knew how easy it was to replace the > VIN tags they may look more closely at the tags for signs of tampering > during a potential purchase. > > Lastly, posting HOW to do something is not illegal or wrong; the act of > following through is. This applies to anything and not just our cars. Any > person following this "recipe" to commit a crime is the guilty party, not > the person discussing how it can be done so everyone can be better educated > to protect themselves, and their car. > > Greg > [moderator snip] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/