Patrick, If your brake lights work with the ign swt off then the key wouldn't have to be turned on to turn on the parking lights. See if your #18 fuse per the diagram powers the stop light switch with the key off. If they work then unplug #18 and see if they still do. Give me feed back. John -----Original Message----- From:Patrick C. Subject: Re: [DML] Headlight Saver Interesting, Mark. My brakelights on VIN 1880 work when the ignition is turned off. The cutoff must be somewhere in between 1860 and 1880. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/