Byron, try this: First, get a large handful of paper towels and stuff them under the master cylinder. Remove the hard lines attached to the master cylinder and plug the two holes with your thumbs. Get a buddy to sit in the driver seat and have him/her SLOWLY press the brake pedal in to the floor. You will feel the piston push pressure thru the master cylinder. Have your partner do it about three times. By the third time, he/she should not be able to push the pedal hardly at all. You'll need to kinda lean into it with your thumbs or you will have brake fluid everywhere. This will remove any air trapped in the cylinder and un-stick the piston. You should also check the color of the fluid. If it's amber, it's time to flush it out. I don't know if you have tried bleeding your brakes yet or, (if anything), you have done to your brakes, but this proceedure can help determine if your master cylinder is shot. Johnny 5518 On 7/26/05, byrondelorean <celiambyron@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear forum members, when I step on the brake pedal, it feels as thou > the pedal has too much play before making contact with the brakes. > Maybe 4"-5". The brakes do not feel different when I pump them. > I brought it to a nearby brake shop; but am leary to have them touch > the car. I get the confused look; and my feeling is to just drive > away. > Dave Bauerle recently worked on the car and suggested it may be the > master cylinder. I would like to get this fixed in a suburb Detroit > area. Is there a formal way of explaining whats going on with my > brakes with a local brake shop? The last shop said " I don't know what > the pedal is supposed to feel like". Could it be more than just the > master cylinder, maybe the brake power booster? > If both items need to be replaced, should I order every gasket and > connection piece associated for the removal & installation? > > Thanks for the help. > > Byron To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/