In a message dated 7/13/2005 12:33:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, dmcvegas@xxxxxxx writes: Out of curiousity, why would you need a amp in the DeLorean? I run Infinity Kappa 6x9" 3 channels in the back, and 5¼" composits on the kickpanels, with tweeters in the dash. Coupled with a Kenwood 60Wx4 head unit. The sound is crystal with clear treble, and does a decent job of thumping the floorboards for good base (it's like driving around in a drum). And all this without an amp. If you've got some subwoofers, I understand the need for an amp, but for regular speakers? How much of a difference does this actually make for sound? -Robert vin 6585 "X" Robert, Yes for many people a full range amplifier is unnecessary. My dad, for instance, is not an audiophile and normally listens to talk radio or other easier stations at low volume. No reason for him to install an amplifier. Others such as myself and apparently Marty demand more from our stereo systems which a headunit cannot handle. One thing to point out is that your Kenwood headunit which says 60w X 4 on the faceplate is boasting it's maximum output. The head unit's output is more like 14 to 18 Watts RMS. With an external amplifier you get 70 watts RMS (in my case) which equates to more headroom for accurate sound reproduction at higher sound levels. Many times a high quality external amplifier will utilize better components than a stand-alone headunit too - more chassis room, less compromises. At low volumes the differences will be minute but at higher volumes a quality external amplifier will always outperform a headunit. You need those extra watts of headroom - let's say you a re listening to music at 50% power, you have 50% reserve (or 3dB reserve) to amplify transients or other sudden power demands. The more power you have total, the more headroom you have. For oldies music, transients or other sudden demands are uncommon - for many newer types of music such as electronic, rap, industrial, hard rock, even country - and ESPECIALLY classical - transients and volume changes are common and demanding - at medium to higher volumes, the music just isn't the same without loads of headroom. Another great feature of many stand-alone amplifiers is that most have options like multi-channel crossovers, infrasonic filters, variable pass filters, or on-board equalizers which are often better than those found on a headunit. You need these types of things when adding subwoofers or other speakers or equipment to you system. The bottom line is some people view their car stereo as something to generate background music for long trips - for others it's a huge part of the driving experience, and for those of us whom are the latter - an external amplifier is a requirement. Andy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/