I understand what you did but I was not able to do it on the several cars I have worked on. I can only guess that there is some variation and some cars will have just enough room to do it and others won't. In any case the general consensus is that you should remove the radiator anyway to at least inspect it and/or replace it. It is difficult to juggle the fan shroud with the fans, the radiator, and the condensor coil when you are underneath with anti-freeze dripping down your arms. I also think you should remove the radiator to clean all the junk out from between the radiator and the condensor coil. It is near impossible to fix any broken studs on the condensor coil or the radiator with the radiator still attached. I separated the shroud with the fan motors still attached and tied it back, up into the frame above the crumple zone. I then disconnected the radiator and removed it making it a lot easier and a lot more room to get the shroud out without taking a chance of damaging the radiator or the shroud. It is a little clumsy to handle the shroud with the fan motors in it, they are kind of heavy and the shroud, being plastic, is fragile. The worst part is those damm, little nuts holding the shroud to the radiator. That and working underneath and overhead. I guess you could just remove the fan shroud, pull it back, and do the repair on the pin without taking the fan shroud out of the car. In any case it is just good practice on a 20 year old car to do what needs to be done in whatever area you are taking apart. That is unless you are trying to keep your costs down and "cheap out". This means replacing the hoses, radiator, anti-freeze, and brushes inside the fan motors. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ryan Wright <ryanpwright@xxxx> wrote: > > You really do have to pull the radiator out to get the shroud with the > > fan motors out. > > David -- With all due respect, this is incorrect. I just did it a few > months ago, replacing the entire fan assembly with John Hervey's > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/