I've seen (twice) high idle caused by complete failure of the idle control computer (using the term loosely). The test was to unplug the computer, then the car would idle slow and somewhat erratically. Swapping in a known-good box was the diagnostic technique, mostly because I had another one handy. Dave --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Warren Wallingford" <warren@xxxx> wrote: > > The flurry of talk lately about idle control problems, especially -- - > To check the idle motor, grab it with the key on. If it's vibrating, generally it's OK or will be. Spray some WD-40 into the throat and give it a couple of firm raps with the tuning hammer. If it's not humming, check the connection on top. Peel back the boot to see that none of the little connectors have backed up into the boot. If by this time, the motor doesn't respond, you're in for an idle ECU. Also, there is a temp sensor that tells the ECU to let more air in when the engine is cold-the Contant Idle Switch or Thermister. These go bad in a characteristic way. The engine will idle fine until it warms up, then as the engine warms, will rev higher until it settles into a 2000-2500 rpm idle. The thermister is located in the coolant distrubution pipe under the intake manifold. It cannot be unplugged or overridden exept by disabling the ECU. This failure is very irritating. > > After all this, if the idle won't be controlled, there is surely extra air coming from somewhere. Find it. > > Pictures for the idle motor, ECU, Solenoid and Thermister are behind the links. > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/