One more question..... Every time I've bled a new master cylinder it was always on the car (found it easier) and the car was always on level ground. While bleeding the master cylinder on the D, it is mounted in the car (as I usually do) BUT it is not on level ground. The D is in a sloped driveway where the nose of the car is higher then the rear. I am thinking (I could be wrong that's why I am asking) that maybe there is still air in the MC because of this slope? In other words, the air bubbles (if any) are not near the ports of the MC but are actually at the very front of it? I hope I am making sense the way I am describing it....... For sanity sake, I think I am just going to pull the MC out of the D, put it in my bench vice leveled off and bench bleed it that way with two plastic hoses running from the ports and into the MC again. I've always hated bleeding the MC this way always fearing that I am going to slip with the screw driver while pushing in the piston and messing something up. Steve To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/