Michael I've done this operation on my car several years ago. It's not as bad as it may look. You can get a drill bit on the rivits, however it is a Very Good Idea to cover the torsion bars with some duct tape or card board or something to prevent them from becoming damaged. You also want to take care not to push real hard on the rivit once you are close to drilling it out completely. If you push too hard, you can dimple the top surface of the door. There will be bits of the rivit left inside the door. There just isn't much you can do about it. After enough cycles of the door the little loose bits settle into some crevice somewhere and they don't rattle anymore. Use some WD-40 to help get the old weatherstrip and retainer out from behind the hinges. You will want to move the retainer aft until the front edge of the retainer is free of the front hinge. Then carefully flex the retainer around the hinge and pull it free of the rear hinge. You don't want to crease the retainer. Next, fit the new weatherstripping to the retainer. The cup in the new strip should face up. It may require some trimming to fit. I used some 3M trim adhesive to glue the weatherstrip to the retainer. Don't forget to punch holes in the new weatherstrip. This makes reassembly much easier. To reinstall the retainer, reverse the process of taking it out. Don't forget the WD-40 on this step - you'd hate to tear that new rubber. I used stainless rivits to attach the retainer. Make sure your rivit gun will fit - you may need one with a smaller head. -- Mike -------------- Original message from "Michael Babb" <mcbabb@xxxxxxxxx>: -------------- > > > > Hey gang, > > I am looking at replacing the weather seals that mount to the uppermost > part of the door and form the seal between the door and the T-panel. > These are held in with pop rivets. > > Questions: > > How the heck do you get these pop rivets out? I was looking at them with > the drill, but the fear of nicking the torsion bar with a drill bit made > me hold of on this route . . . > > Once you get the rivets out and are ready to mount the new parts, do > people usually just screw these in, or are pop-rivets the way to go . . > .don't want to have to go through too much pain if I have to do this > again in the future. > > Michael & 3472 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/