I totally agree -- problem could well be the idle speed motor. My Z7V (B27E) came with CIS grafted onto it in lieu of an aux air valve. Was hard wired always active because the fuel/air mixture unit had no place to attach a microswitch (totally different throttle plate casting). Throttle plate bracket didn't have a screw to trip one anyway. Worked OKish for a while, but became very twitchy within a couple of months. One day the idle speed motor stuck closed at a stop light. Of course totally killed the engine. Had to crack the throttle plates open with the accelerator pedal at every stop to limp home. That's when I figured out what the "forbidden" brass screws are for (which on European spec PRV's of that vintage are MEANT to be used). I too recommend troubleshooting CIS first (if worse comes to worse you can drive the car off the manual idle circuit or simply crack the throttle plates open with the lower set screw until it is again operational). Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxx> wrote: > > STOP! I don't believe anyone has mentioned your idle speed circuit. Before > making any adjustments be sure that the idle speed circuit is working > properly. > > List members; you should never suggest that an owner make adjustments that > may degrade the operation of the engine in hopes of finding the source of a > problem. A good example is Mikes stalling problem. If he makes adjustments, > i.e. timing, CO adjust, and other changes and the problem turns out to be > something like a failed idle speed motor you may be contributing to creating > many new problems that could be worse than the original problem. > > DMC Joe > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/