Yeah, you like that. Here is a little story about what was my car... I sat my Car up for the entire weekend at the Kruse Leake 2003 Dallas Auto Auction and it was the hit of the show. EVERYONE stopped and looked. Pictures were taken all over the place, interviews were had. People actually came back the next day with family to show them the car. It was amazing to see the reaction we were getting. I was incredibly hopefull for how things were going and the auction was starting for us in about an hour... So, I get the car set up and ready to go to the bidding floor. Things are great and I take the car up on the lift... Then it all went to heck in a handbasket... I'm sittin gup here in the blazing heat and can't see or think for ANYTHING... The bidding is going NOWHERE, I mean NOWHERE. The bids are only around $18k... I'm in total shock at this point. All the while one of the auction runners is sticking his head in my drivers area and telling me... "Thats a fair price... This is the market value" blah, blah, blah... I respond that the Reserve is 35K for a REASON. He continues to harrass and push, and push, and push... Finally the bidding is about 22K and its stalling... All the while the auctioneer is saying "move the car"... Excuse me? I thought my auction contract stated that they auction would contiue to bid in my behalf until the reserve was met? Well, at this point I'm totally lost... The Bid runner from earlier is still screaming at me that the current bid was fair and a great deal. I refuse to accept that and tell him that I need to talk with my wife about it. So, what does mister bid runner do? He yells to the counter "he needs to talk to his wife about it"... then what do I hear over the loudspeakers? "SOLD, pending discussion with his wife!!!". I kid you not... Like that my car was off the block and on the way down the ramp... I'm more concerned with driveing the car than to think about the ulitmate ramifications of what just happened... So, my poor wife who is sitting out in the audience with a good chunk of our family is still in shock and finally comes over to talk with me. She joins me in the passenger seat and this Auction Runner is STILL harassing me to confirm the sale. She did not want to sell the car at 22K and I agreed with her. HOWEVER, in my mind I know what our debts are, and I know we needed the funds from this sale to pay for some things with the house. In a fit of total shock and confusion I said "yes" and with that the deal was done... The car sold for 22K and we were going to make about 18K after comission. At this point we left the show in shock and made the 3.5 hour trip home to OKC and my wife's family. She cried the whole way home and I was too angry to care about much of anything at that point. We decided to go to bed early and head up to Tulsa in the morning. At 9:00 we went to bed, but didn't go to sleep till 12:00. The whole situation hit us like a ton of bricks at that point and I realized there was only ONE SOLUTION... Get my car back. PERIOD. So we get up at 4:00 and leave to go BACK to Dallas.. We get there at 8:00 and talk with the auctioneers. NOTE: At this point we had not been paid for the car. No money had changed hands and I had not yet signed over the title. For all intents and purposes - this car was still mine. I don't care what they said. Well, the auction house thought differently... As far as they were concerned, the car was sold when I said "yes". Even thought I paid $500 to list the thing with these people and signed over a couple of dozen forms with all these little caveats for the auction house. Nice, huh? According to the auciton house. The only person that could decide if the car was for sale is the new "Owner" - thats right the guys who had not even paid for the car yet... How ******* up is that... Even then, if he decides NOT to buy the car we would still owe the auction house the commissions for the sale. nearly $2500. Fine, whatever it takes, we just wanted the car back. So we wait.... and wait... For 2 hours we waited for him to show up... And when he does... He doesn't want to give the car up. He likes the car - thats why he bought it. My wife actually PLEADED with this guy to let us have the car back - with TEARS in her eyes (not that fakey Tear up stuff, these were real). He thinks about it and says he will give us the car back..... IF WE MAKE IT WORTH HIS WHILE... He asks us to hold on and he goes to talk with the auctioneers... They come back with an offer... We can have the car back IF we pay the comissions AND give the new "owner" about $2200... about $5000 more than what the car "sold" for... DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? We sure didn't. So we sit and talk it over. We had MAX $4000 in savings. There were no other funds available, Period. Our hands were tied and we could not meet their offer. In a way I refused to give in to the principle that I had to pay more of MY MONEY to get back MY OWN CAR, when I still had not even been paid for it in the first place... That was just way too wrong on soo many levels for me. At that point we just walked away... Took our check for $20K (they added another $1000 because they felt sorry for us) and walked away. We took our lumps and in the end are probably better for it. I have better things to do and to that end have resolved to make an even better, more accurate, and ultimately arse-kickin BTTF Delorean. And to boot once we got our Debts taken care of I still had enough to get my Studio Scale Apogee Delorean model from Back to the Future- so phhhttt!!! And to think all this pain and suffering just because I said "yes" instead of "no" - THAT is the true power of the english language right there... -Gary Weaver II Post Script - Since I wrote out this story for the BTTF.com Fan Club lists I spoken with some close friends in legal circles and basicly we were had by both the Auction House and this Seller. Oh well, I'm not about to make anythign more of it now - its done with. I have also heard about the current owner looking to sell the car for the 35K we originally wanted. Sounds like the Promotional Story is a big ole lie. I doubt I'll see the car again and if I do it would probably be too painful of an experience... BTW, I'm pelased to hear that you were impressed with the car. I busted my ass for nearly 6 months on it. New interior components, engine work, and all of the conversion was done to cause little or no Damage to the vehicle. I'm glad someone from the list was finally able to see it -even if I no longer own it... Glad you liked the binder as well, but I wish I had never wasted my time making it now... :( --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Marvin" <marv@xxxx> wrote: > While in Florida, I went to the Kruse auction Jan 2, 3, 4 / 04, in Ft Lauderdale. Among the many neat vehicles for sale was a "back to the future" / time machine DeLorean.