Dave, I am fairly certain that Ben was not asking anyone's opinion about where to purchase a car, just about shipping. Do you know what he paid for it, if he got a good deal even with $845 in shipping? He never said whether or not he's seen the car-that was never an issue, yet you commented on it anyway. He never stated how much he paid for it either. How are you certain that the car is a northern car? I ask these questions because I know of the car in question. In fact, up until 2000 I believe it was in FL. Now it is sitting at Rob Grady's shop ready for the work Ben needs done before bringing it out to AZ. Rob has been very good to our club with his support and I understand why Ben chose Rob to do the work his car needs. Rob had a lot of practice setting my car up for hot weather and we've done some good telephone R&D since. I think if you are going to buy a DeLorean, P.J. Grady's is as good a place as any to start, hence why Ben needs to ship it from NY to AZ. I also trust Rob implicitly because of my experience with him and his people. I have never known him to mislead a customer in any way. My car and the 2002 DeLoreancarshow.com trophy it earned are a testament to this. I bought both of my DeLoreans off of ebay and flew out to see both of them before the purchase. I agree, you should never buy a car sight unseen unless it's a parts car at a fair value, and even then you run the risk of being ripped off, but it is really all about trust and what you are willing to part with or lose outright. I shipped both of my newly purchased DeLoreans to Rob Grady upon purchase and I don't regret this move for one minute. I shipped my show car from the east coast to AZ after I moved. There was no way I was going to leave it out there and possibly sell it, only to buy one in AZ because it was closer. Your proposed logic doesn't make any sense to me. Wow, I must really be in a bad mood. In an earlier post I took the "Devil's Advocate" position on digital gauges, and now I'm doing the same with you on shipping. I'm usually not this argumentative, especially with a fellow enthusiast. YMMV, Matthew VIN 16816 (Congrats Ben!) --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dave Swingle" <swingle@xxxx> wrote: > Yeah - find a closer car. The following generalizations are meant as > some thoughts on buying DeLoreans and may or may not apply to your > situation. There are always exceptions. > > It always amazes me that people ship cars across the country, sight > unseen, when there are so many cars for sale everywhere.