Armed with an ammeter I confirmed quickly that the brake switch is intact internally. I used contact cleaner to improve the points on the boards and kept picking up a dead signal. I had noticed the night before that the 15AMP fuse No. 9 had blown. This according to the plastic fuse box cover and diagram attached to the inside of the wooden panel covering the fuses states that this fuse should be for only the rear window demister and electric door mirror motors. Initially I thought that I should fix the brake light problem before finding the cause of No. 9 to blow. I changed my mind and placed a correct 10AMP fuse in the No.9 position. Not only did the door mirror motors kick back to life but the brake lights also burst into life. What caused fuse No.9 to blow. With the 10AMP in place I turned on every single electrical system including air-con, fogs, high beam, indictors, radio etc. The fuse has not blown and the quad brake lights are still working! The plastic fuse box cover has a label stating No.18 should be a fuse spare where as on the other diagram it is supposed to be the stop lights. Is my car abnormal having the stop lights sharing with the demister and door mirror motors??? Anyway, I shall check my mirror motors occasionally, if they stop working then I know the brake lights will have too. Regards Chris H. #5255 ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher M. Hawes <chris@xxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [DML] Breaking it > Thanks for the theories flying in about my lack of break lights. I will try > cleaning the connections on the boards. Without a circuit diagram I can > only act on the hunch that if it was a board problem then at least one set > of my break lights lights would be working. All other aspects of the boards > such as the indicators etc all work as normal on each of the 2 boards. > > I hope to clean the connections tomorrow night and check the switch. I can > see that it isn't stuck, I guess like Aaron's situation the switch is > probably well and truly dead... > > I will post my findings > > Chris H. > #5255 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: aaron_t_graham <aaron_t_graham@xxxx> > To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:39 PM > Subject: Re: [DML] Breaking it > > > > My brake lights went out a couple of months ago. There were > > basically four things I needed to check (otherwise I was going to > > need to do a lot of wire checking): > > > > 1) Maybe The circuit boards connections are bad. I'd heard these > > were a problem, but I didn't think this was the case because (I > > assumed) it wouldn't explain all 4 lights going out at the same time. > > 2) The bulbs...Likewise with (1), it wouldn't explain them all going > > out at once. I tested the bulbs anyway. > > 3) A fuse. I checked and replaced just to make sure, but that wasn't > > the problem. > > 4) The switch. > > > > Sure enough, it was the last thing I checked (the switch). After > > taking the switch off I noticed that the switch was stuck in the "in" > > position (obviously, since the lights were off). I used pliers and > > quite a bit of force to get it un-stuck, but it didn't work after > > that. Ordering a new one was quick, easy, and cheap (I guess), and > > installing it took about 5 minutes. > > > > Aaron > > #1506 > > > > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > > moderator@xxxx > > > > To search the archives or view files, log in at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@xxxx > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >