Re: Fw: DeLorean scam on the loose.... beware.

["jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty@xxxx>]

It's much worse than you think. It used to be "Buyer Beware". Now it's 
also seller beware. There have been cases of forged bank checks and 
certified checks. Sometimes the buyer only poses and then returns to 
steal the car. Having kept the title only protected the first seller, 
the scammer still got the car and the money from the second sale. 
Seems not having the title didn't keep him from being able to resell 
the car did it? Pity the person who layed out all of that money and 
now doesn't even have a parts car to show for it! When a deal is too 
good to be true it usually is. The moral here is to be very careful in 
buying or selling. Calling a vender with a vin # can get some 
background and history. Get in touch with the locals, someone may know 
the car and it's history. If when selling and you have ANY doubts 
about the buyer check him out. Call his bank, if you have to wait 
until Monday because he shows up on Sunday afternoon with a bank check 
it is better to wait and make sure then to find out the check is 
worthless AND your car is gone. As always Cash is King. Holding the 
title for the balance won't really help. Some of the money you got 
will now go for retrieving the car from NY and fixing any damage that 
was caused since you sold it not to mention the legal hassles that 
will go along with this. It's too bad there are people like this but 
here are always some who try to take advantage of others. Unfortunatly 
this experience is not unique to Deloreans. Another scam is for a 
seller to be knowledgable about a car and is selling off parts, send 
money and he has the exact hard to obtain part just waiting for you to 
send a check but the part never arrives. Try to deal with people you 
know or can trust. Another reason to deal with our Delorean Parts 
venders.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews@xxxx, id <ionicdesign@xxxx> wrote:
> i have seen this seller selling deloreans on ebay before. he was 
trying to sell a delorean from wisconsin. the original owner had tried 
to sell it on ebay weeks before with no luck because it had needed the 
cylinder heads replaced and he wanted too much money for the car. Sean 
Corbett put an ad on ebay trying to sell the car as needing little 
engine work and asking for even more money.
> 
> good luck on catching him
> mark
> 
> Darryl Tinnerstet wrote:
> 
> > ***** Moderator's Note *****
> > This seems legitimate. If you are selling a car - hang on to that
> > title until you get ALL of the money. If you are buying, ALWAYS
> > inspect the car personally or use a trusted intermediary.
> >
> > It's a jungle out there...
> >
> > Mike G Moderator of the Week
> >
> > [Note to moderators - I'll let you be the judge of whether you 
want to run this. I know Dave well enough to believe this, so it 
might be a good idea to let others be aware of what is going on.]
> >
> > The following message was sent to me by a customer/former PNDC 
member from Portland, OR.:
> >
> > >> Remember that I told you I sold my DeLorean. Well, it turns 
out that the guy who bought it was a scam artist. The guy posed 
himself as "Sean Corbett". He was buying fixer-upper deloreans for 
dirt cheap price, then placed them on e-bay as in "mint-condition"... 
car runs smoothly, no problems, etc., and got bids as high as $25,000. 
When the e-bay buyer finally received the car, it was a piece of 
junk, and the guy vanishes. Mine ended up on there. He bought mine 
for $7,000, only sent me $3000 promising he'll send the rest after it 
was on the truck, and never sent me the rest of the money. I 
outsmarted him by holding on to the title. The guy who won the bid 
paid $11,800 for it. The rest was pure profit. Anyways, he did that 
to 5 other known people so far around the nation, and we have no idea 
where this guy is. Now I have to go repo this car from New York, and 
the guy who bought it is out $11,800 (plus shipping -- $1300). His 
name is Peter DeMazio. He might have called you for parts.
> >
> > Now the FBI is involved in this case, and I wanted to let you 
know that this guy is still out there scamming people. Possibly may 
have moved on to other collector cars. But be on the lookout if you 
hear of anything strange. Kind of let the DeLorean community know 
that a scam artist is out on the loose. We are all out to get him, 
but there are no traces of him. Will keep you posted if we nab him. 
Any leads, clues, or other known victims would help. By the way, all 
we know is that this guy lives (or used to live) in Scottsdale, 
Arizona. According to police, he vacated his apartment 2 weeks ago.<<
> >
> > Check out ebay and search item # 1828491619. I sold mine in 
Auto-Trader asking $8000 as a fixer-upper, needs work, and this guy 
turns around and does this. The pictures are even all fake, copied 
from other ads.
> > Dave T.
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